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Be the change you want to see.
Why contain it? Let it spill over to the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end, they’ll beg us to save them.
- Bob Page, 2052
Let it spill over to the schools and churches,
That’s what the regime wants, whoever executed topic of the current discussion knew that they could tap this raw anger.
Note how witness was left alone… if he killed the witness, this would be a different story.
Clean murder of a corporate parasite, galvanized the public. Zero tears shed, people are celebrating.
There is a lesson for the elites in this… but they won’t learn it. They will regroup and oppression will get worse. They will use full force of the state against working people.
This is just the start.
And they will somehow think that they escape unscathed.
Yeap, the more they squeeze the more people will have less to loose. Now that it’s been done once people see it’s possible. People see how it’s being celebrated. Hopefully this will replace shoot shootings. Because politicians don’t care about dead kids but they’ll as hell care about CEOs being merc’d. Maybe we’ll get some meaningful reforms out of this and change some business practices too.
I just want to say I haven’t seen “merc’d” used quite so eloquently before, well done.
Serious? People are reacting with laughing emojis? Really?
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆Went to the post, posted a laughing emoji. I’m French.
GOOD! #good
I’ve been pretty impressed that the shooter has so far evaded police. I can only imagine that there have been at least one or two incidents thus far where people, be it cops or witnesses, had a clear opportunity to take actions that would lead to his immediate capture, but decided not to.
From what I know, cops often rely on the cooperation of the public to resolve crimes, but they may not be getting any on this one.
Good, the spineless hand wringing bootlicking fucking scumbags are losing. Wonderful to see.
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.
This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.
Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?
This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.
The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.
This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.
When society gets to the point where you will die if you don’t do anything … or you will die if you do something …
Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don’t do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.
If you’re going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.
Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it’s barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.
I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.
Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, and he just never gets caught.
If he does, it’s gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.
Except the government will probably make GoFundMe freeze the funds for the campaign.
It’s a legal defense fund, not a bounty.
Granted, they’d probably still do so anyways.
Oh, I’m almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.
He won’t be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.
if this dude gets found he won’t make it to trial.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They’re afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.
They’re so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.
Wouldn’t that backfire though?
Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”
It’s been 3 days, and the chances of them finding him go down with every day.
If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.
Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.
Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He’ll be a hero either way, the question is how much.
TBF, we don’t know that. Might’ve been a paid hitman.
According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that’s the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.
Leaving the DNA behind doesn’t really identify him if his DNA is not in the system.
But nowadays the odds some relative of yours put theirs up on some family tree site is pretty high so they could narrow the suspect pool quite a bit going that route.
His DNA doesn’t need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It’s how they caught the BTK Killer.
I think you’re thinking of the Golden State Killer (among many others). BTK was caught through digital forensics, not forensic genealogy.
Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.
No, not that I’m aware of.
The professional killer was the one who died.
Does he have a Patreon?
Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.
Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn’t really have any time to enjoy it.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.
I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don’t have enough people who hate them.
We need a black market gofundme so we can crowd source hits to keep up.
I’m not sure we would outweigh them - you know the statistics, almost half the wealth (potential kill orders) is held by top 1.1%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
Interesting guy.
Indeed he is. Did you read the SI?
SI?
Essay, sorry
Don’t get scammed but if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I think the plebs can figure it out.
He did job well, least we can do it pay respects
Does he have an OnlyFans?
Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.
Something something and I’m tired of pretending it isn’t, etc. The only thing I feel bad about is if he
hashad young children who couldn’t understand he was a waste of skin, they have my sympathy.His kids have been profiting off of the death he had a hand in. They’ll be just fine in their ivory towers, whatever happens.
Feel worse for the millions of children that are parentless due to his policy decisions. His kids will be FINE.
Don’t forget the children whose siblings died due to insurance fuckery, and the parents who’ve lost children.
Crying from the 3rd floor of their yacht…
I would honestly go so far as to suggest that in the long term, not having this monster raise them (given they’ll still have plenty of money) probably leaves them better off.
These execs are scared their own children will ask them to explain what they do for a living. Doubt they raise their kids as much as they pay someone else to do it. That being said, Elmo’s kids are stuck on a compound. That’s definitely going to mess them up.
They’re already teenagers. The damage has been done, but hopefully this act will help them decide not to follow in their father’s footsteps.
His kids are gonna be worse 20-40milliom per head.
They will be fine. I doubt they will ever understand why entire society turned on their parasite shitstain father.
Money doesn’t fix trauma, and childhood trauma is rarely fully healed. The kids did nothing wrong, and you should feel bad for them.
Like I said, my feelings are focused on those he harmed. Eat the fucking rich.
I feel bad they had a monster for a father.
yeah alls his theoretical kids would have is millions of dollars, the best education, a lavish lifestyle, trust funds, but they would not have their asshole dad.
They aren’t theoretical, he did have children.
So do many people who have their claims denied…
It isn’t impossible to feel bad for both?
It is about priorities…
What priorities are there? I’m talking about emotions, not actions.
You can feel bad for both the children of this guy that will now grow up without a father and the millions of people he harmed at the same time. I’m not even saying I feel equally as bad for his children as his victims’ children (because losing a parent to a preventable death due to insurance is objectively a worse situation). All I’m saying is it’s reasonable to feel sympathy for both. It’s not like the kids had a choice in what their dad did.
I didn’t dispute that?
Some of those who had claims denied are children.
You can feel bad for his family while also not feeling bad about his death. Losing a loved one is hard regardless of how much money you have. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t ultimately a net positive (although I’m doubtful that UH will actually change any policies because of this)
Don’t the crime if you can’t do the time?
That’s the life his father chose for them.
I feel bad for his kids. They didn’t choose their parents.
His wife on the other hand did choose him, so fuck her too.
He and this wife didn’t choose their parents either (and any other contributing factors in their environment that made them who they are). Growing older doesn’t change the causes of the development of their brain, the cause of the choices you make, and if we could have saved them from becoming the person they became then stopping at 18 doesn’t make much sense.
With even the most evil people we can be sad they died but also happy they can’t do more evil. Uday Hussein, son of Saddam Hussein did some evil stuff and and if we could have prevented him from becoming the person he because at age 8 or age 18 then it’s the same.
Aren’t they already seperated?
So she is about to paid out big time with blood money he stole…
Yeah real peach
Well I did not know so until this moment for me it was theoretical. It does not matter but now I know.
unsuccessfully.
He didn’t really get “assassinated”. He just got denied his critical-life benefits.
Pre-existing condition, lead poisoning in a boomer.
Everyone older than me is a boomer.
Everyone younger than me is a zoomer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You’ve seen pictures of him right? Just how fucking young do you think boomers are?
Boomer, n. “A privileged asshole who keeps fucking things up for everyone else.”
If that doesn’t apply to you, they’re not insulting you.
You can’t just make up a definition of a word.
That’s literally how words are made fam
The OED would liy to know your location.
The OED is quite accepting of multiple definitions that develop over time! They love citing first known usage, it gets them hard as diamonds.
He was actually GenX.
This isn’t a generational thing. For a start, he’s technically Gen X, not a boomer. And secondly, I’m older than him and I’m just as happy about that as everyone else.
While boomer is deff age, when people refer to it online it largely mind sent reference… that parasite pest leeching on working people and feel entitled to do it, indigent when exposed.
You know the type…
(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)
Which is really really sad. When I was younger I used to think we just need these old people to age out of the system and my generation can do things better. We seem to be doing significantly worse.
(Gen X voted for Trump at a higher rate than boomers)
That’s really sad because the younger someone is the more they are going to be fucked by the long term effects of Donald Trainwreck’s enshitification of everything. Nuclear proliferation from the new world disorder, global warming, hyperinflation of the national debt due to gigantic tax cuts for the billionaire elites, hollowing out democracy, normalization of corruption, normalization of routine dishonesty, huge economic inefficiencies that comes with wealth inequality, removal of previous rights like abortion, vast increase in government incompetency, etc
Exactly… Don’t humaniE this parasite. Give him that corpo treatment.
Claim to life denied 🙅
Sympathy witheld until forms can be obtained that prove that the bullet holes were not a pre existing condition.
Most humans are born with orifices, I think that counts.
My only concern is that I hope this doesn’t become an Archduke Ferdinand for an American Civil War part 2.
If that’s the case then it will just be the class war heating up because one side finally started fighting back.
So few of them, so many of us
But how…? Are Magas sad/angry that this happened? Most likely it’s the opposite. This is a poor/middle-class vs rich/ultra-wealthy scenario. I guess unless Fox tells/tricks them to be angry and blame liberals, but I’m sure plenty of them are not upset about this. I see it as “the enemy of my enemy” type deal.
Yeah, even the MAGA people I know are like “aight, cool”
Until Fox News tells them otherwise.
This is the most united America has been since 911
Is it really a civil war when 99% of the people are on one side?
Over half the country voted for trump, the man who will make everything worse and who appeals to people’s most base instincts. Some of the worst mass shootings were under Trump.
I don’t think violence will necessarily be contained to Democrats and old style Republicans. The new right likes corruption, which includes POS health insurance companies.
I think you’re underestimating the amount of “temporarily embarrassed millionaires” out there.
united healthcare? how many divisions do they have?
They united the people against them. That’s living up to half the name, I guess.
It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.
It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.
People really hate insurance companies.
Don’t so it under your names folks, regime will be making lists based on this.
They are scared and they will lash out.
With that being said, fuck that parasite.
FAFO
They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.
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lol @ thinking reddit is anonymous
i was talking about people commenting on linkedin actually…
nor did I suggest reddit is anon, but aint you aint got provide your full name and address.
Whonix workstation
Do all your public internetting in there
Help, I’m now physically inside my system, but it’s kinda hard to read the screen at this angle. Plus I’ve got to reach out for keyboard input…
No you don’t??
Just use an on-screen keyboard smh
You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?
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They also have backdoors in most implementations of TLS, according to a person I know who worked government security.
I work in cryptography, and I guarantee if that’s true “some person you know who worked in government security” would not tell you if they did know, or they are pulling shit out of their ass. There have been so many people that have looked at or worked on SSL/TLS implementations (including some of my coworkers), any vulnerabilities would have to be pretty subtle or clever, and that would be kept highly classified. Quit making shit up or repeating bullshit you heard.
Sure, if we’re talking about code vulnerabilities only. It’s most likely a compromised root cert though.
That just would allow a malicious attacker to fake being the server, it doesn’t actually compromise the TLS session. So you are talking about a much more sophisticated multi stage attack that needs to be actively executed. This wouldn’t at all allow them to record traffic and decrypt later.
The certs authenticate that you are talking to the real server, the symmetric session keys that are usually derived from a diffie helman key exchange have nothing to do with certs. That’s two separate (but connected) parts of the transaction to build a TLS session.
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Still takes more work than just giving them that information.
It is almost never a question of whether it’s possible or not. You WILL make a mistake. It’s just a question of how much effort you’re worth as an individual.
right, don’t make it easy for them. plus they got prolly got half a country to put on the list now.
When everyone is on the list, noone is.
No, they said we already knew about that and didn’t give it another thought.
People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country’s worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles… nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.
LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.
I used to work for a big data company that tracked shares to various social networks and the frequency with which people share porn to LinkedIn was remarkably high.
What?! How?! So I can learn to avoid it!
Maybe it was only-secretaries dot com.
I need a direct link to be sure
Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won’t as it’s now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you’ve seen The First 48)
But if he does, it’s going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn’t heard of JURY NULLIFICATION
At this point, I don’t even think they want to catch him anymore. He’s already being talked about as hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.
48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time
First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.
If they catch him they will kill him.
Exactly. There’s no way they’ll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he’s dead. The “how” they’ll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They’ll come up with something, mark my words.
He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there
And then they’ll kill him while waiting for a trial.
But the world would know it was murder and not “resisting arrest”
Would that change anything in a country where Trump is re-elected?
The cynic in me says nothing matters and nothing ever changes, the ideologe says it gives people ideas, ideas that build up and can one day turn into action.
