Bluesky Post (this was also posted on twitter)
I was hoping to find a statement from the aggressor, but it seems to be too early.
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WTF
Holy fuck
Welcome to Web 3 I guess. Automated systems ignoring real actors
Web 3 was crypto scams, we’re up to web 6 or 7 by now
Web 3.0 was actually the Semantic Web originally, the cryptobros are bad at counting.
AI scams
At first I was like “WTF does an indie games site have to do with Funko?” then I Googled it…
Looks like they hosted a BUNCH of infringing games, so Funko, instead of doing the righteous thing and sending them a takedown request, just nuked the whole domain…
Sounds about right for funko lol.
( though tbh, listing all games that taken the funko brand would be a massive task lol ).Still, this one hell of a messy shit i wouldnt want to touch legally haha
though tbh, listing all games that taken the funko brand would be a massive task lol
That’s what the brandshield “AI” was supposed to automate. Hell, I could possibly cobble some python script to crawl through itch and create a list of infriging games/devs, something that wouldn’t take more than 1 day.
Sure, but for a lawsuit you should also validate that list to make sure there were no mistakes. Same should have happened with the ai bot. But nooooo, too many people takes scripts and ai output as facts -_-
So from what I’ve heard at least some of those are just fan pages that just link to the official site.
Back up at least
I hope this teaches them the valuable lesson of always having domains with more than one registrar.
Or, hopefully, we migrate to a system more advanced than DNS registrars where your “name” can be taken down by an unrelated third party. The current system sucks and the fact that even the Fediverse relies on it (accounts are tied to domains, making full account migration impossible) makes even the remains of my pre-graduate CS student brain rumble.
The current DNS implementation works well but there should maybe be some ICANN rules that restrict regristars more.
I can’t really think of a way to make it better without making it less secure.
what do you mean
Maybe he’s talking about some sort of peer to peer thing
maybe
Or even blockchain!
They’ve gone too far this time. Now how are we supposed to play egg fried rice
If lawmakers would simply make the entity responsible for the operation of these AI powered tools be fully liable for every decision that it makes, right or wrong, this kind of nonsense would vanish overnight.
I hope the people running itch.io have great lawyers, because I would be trying to take Funko to court for punitive damages over something like this.
Also, while we’re at it, reform the DMCA to disallow automated copyright related takedown requests without some sort of human reviewing it at the other end. It’s been abused to hell and back by big business.
If lawmakers would simply make the entity responsible for the operation of these AI powered tools be fully liable for every decision that it makes, right or wrong, this kind of nonsense would vanish overnight.
They are? AI isn’t some autonomous entity with its own legal rights and responsibilities.
The problem is that these actions aren’t illegal. This is all a civil issue, and yeah, hopefully itch.io puts a hurt on Brand Shield but I doubt it.
Also, while we’re at it, reform the DMCA to disallow automated copyright related takedown requests without some sort of human reviewing it at the other end. It’s been abused to hell and back by big business.
Itch.io shared on hackernews that they apparently sent a report for fraud and phishing, not copyright infringement. So sounds like funko was abusing the system even if automated copyright claims weren’t a thing.
If you think about it, until now there’s been an u spoken, automatic limit on all government activity because some person has to actually implement all government activity.
That’s been, through all of history, at least some kind of filter on the actions government would take.
(I’m using the term “government” ultra loosely, since in this case it’s a private entity implementing policy; “government” as in an authority who can halt a person’s operations as they see fit. “Government” in the same way management or command structure or the principal’s office is like a “government” in its little realm of operation).
Up until now, government has to be done by people. But AI makes it easy to do tons of activity, which can have a larger disruptive impact.
Fucko pop should be forced to pay damages. It’s too easy for shitty companies to send out takedown notices and too difficult for those takedown notices to be contested by comparison.
That was the whole point of the DMCA, though. Prevent bad publicity by claiming copyright infringement and companiea have to take down the content before they investigate any response. Any time a company doesn’t do that they are risking their own necks. So usually they only ignore it if they know for sure it’s bogus which requires that they spend the resources on a person reviewing every notice before the required time expires.
the “oh our automated system did it oopsies please forgive us” excuse doesn’t make it any better either
Looks like they switched to 1api.net
Good. If a registrar causes issues because of their own non-response during their own investigation then it’s useless.
It’s back up now!
“We did not commit crime, we commited it with alforithm”. Cory Doctorow had talk about it long before AI was mainstream.
“We did not commit crime, the algorithm committed crime”, rather
I don’t remember what exactly he said, but I think it was from this video.
Or Tenfingers (shameless plug)
Interesting
I’m ironing out some quirks at the moment (a vulnerability was found and I’m profiting off that I had to do some core modifs to do some refacts too), if you’re interested you can sub to !tenfingers@lemmy.mindoki.com I’ll post an update when things get rolling.
Ok then
Might be a good time to change domain while you’re at it, if .io is about to be retired.
They want to change it? But why?
I think they are referring to this.
As in, it’s not that they want, they might have to.
It probably won’t be.
Not only is the agreement between the UK and Mauritius on the brink of collapsing (bizarrely, the UK is trying to get rid of territory and Mauritius doesn’t particularly want it very much), but there’s so much reliance on the .io domain that it’s unlikely to be removed.
Especially because tech giants like Google, Microsoft, and Apple make use of it.
ICANN is pretty strict about this following some complications that happened back in the 90’s . No country, no country code, no domain. No matter who, no matter what.
Though they have made odd decisions before. IO is generic and widely-used enough that it doesn’t seem implausible that they might change it to not be tied to the Indian Ocean territories.
I mean,
.sustill exists.And so do Soviet Union too. /s
That is the event that icann uses as it’s reason to be strict about it.
The only thing you can rely on from ICANN is that they will do whatever is most profitable for their board members.
.io will be removed from a country code and over to a cosmetic domain like .sex
It’s really not that complicated
That would make it the only 2 letter non country code top level domain. And could also cause issues if another country is later assigned io as it’s 2 letter country code by ISO
No, it would make it the second 2 letter non country code top level domain. .su is the other.
No it would be the first. .su is still considered a CCTLD http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/su.html
And so could .io
I will take it
more details by itch.io dev
