Summary

Vice President JD Vance claimed that Donald Trump’s policies will lower grocery prices, but he failed to provide details.

Instead, Vance emphasized vague goals like increasing capital investment and job creation.

Meanwhile, Trump’s recent tariff threats, including a 25% increase on Colombian coffee imports, have driven coffee prices higher, exacerbating grocery costs.

Critics note Trump’s shifting narrative, as he now admits it is “hard to bring things down once they’re up.”

Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.

  • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    1652 months ago

    The plan is to let prices go up (predictably, given tariffs) while forever promising people that prices will come down soon. I’m sure it will happen right after the wealth Reagan promised finally trickles down.

      • ddh
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        262 months ago

        Ah, like the beautiful Healthcare Plan

        • sp3ctr4l
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          12 months ago

          Apparently the concept of his healthcare plan involves just… turning off Medicare, without warning.

    • IninewCrow
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      132 months ago

      The actual Trickle Down economy: Getting drenched in a golden shower while waiting for your millions

      • @P00ptart@lemmy.world
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        242 months ago

        Fun fact: “trickle down economics” is just rebranded horse and sparrow economics. The idea being that if you overfeed your horse, it won’t digest it all and the sparrow will be able to sift through the horse shit to find bits of food to eat.

  • Zier
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    1122 months ago

    The republican plan is to lie and get elected so they can rape the nation. They don’t care about citizens. They are here to make money and take yours.

  • Admiral Patrick
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    822 months ago

    Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.

    • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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      502 months ago

      Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.

      FFS. How many times were the Democrats and others declared “elitist” and “out of touch” when they pointed to ACTUAL indicators of a good economy under Biden?

      Now, when prices jump, they are telling people to drink gawdawful shit like Taster’s Choice? Gosh, that doesn’t sound like mansplaining or paternalistic or elitist or all the other things I was told the Democrats supposedly were being…

      I bet that fucker Kilmeade who I’m sure is being paid millions per year to be stupid on television is not going to be drinking shitty coffee himself. Everyone else can eat cake, though.

      • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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        -62 months ago

        Not all instant coffee is terrible. There’s a wide variety in quality there just like with full beans.

        Also keep in mind that the average American is used to shit like Folger’s in a Mr. Coffee, a Keurig K-cup, or the burnt espresso from Starbucks.

        • @MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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          102 months ago

          So you’re saying instant is good when you’re comparing it to fecal soup? Not really selling it, here.

          • Zammy95
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            92 months ago

            There totally is good instant coffee!

            Made with good beans, that need to be imported fresh. So… Probably even more expensive, since it’s those good beans, plus some additional processing for the novelty/longevity…

            • teft
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              52 months ago

              Yep. Here in colombia the instant coffee is much more popular and it tastes exactly the same as normal brewed coffee (as long as you buy a good brand).

            • Can you (or others) please provide a couple examples of good instant? I am completely serious. I have a trip coming up where the coffee might be terrible or non-existent. I’d like to bring some [quality] instant just in case.

              • Zammy95
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                22 months ago

                The good instant espressos I’ve had were typically directly from the roaster. I’m a big fan of Black and White roasters out of North Carolina, and they have good instant.

                I also have had really good instant from a site called loveluminous, but they’re a bit strange. It’s a drop store, so you can only order on Fridays, and you have to sign up to get a code sent to you.

                Anyway, look for independent roasters of moderate size, you never know what some of them may carry.

                • @PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world
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                  Yes, I already have some SB and will likely bring it, but I was hoping for other suggestions. I appreciate your link to Mr Hoffman and I enjoyed the video. Ultimately, I found a brand called Black Coffee Roasting Company. I’ll bring those and the SB on the trip. Thank you again.

                  BTW, I normally drink Dillanos. Their double-French roast is one of the best coffees I’ve had. I don’t drink SB much anymore.

          • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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            82 months ago

            That’s not at all what I’m saying.

            I swear no one on the internet has any reading comprehension skills anymore. Either that or everyone purposely assumes the worst interpretation of everything because they want to talk shit.

            I was saying that just like regular beans, there are a variety of instant options as well on the market. Just because Walmart stocks terrible options, that doesn’t mean there aren’t others available. We’re not talking about the pompous assholes that can’t stop talking about their home espresso machine, fancy grinding habits, magical aero press, or how to properly do a pour over.

            Most people just use the cheap stuff, the quick K-cup, or the Starbucks drive thru on the way to work because THEY DON’T GIVE A FUCK, they just want their caffeine. So that’s what you need to compare against.

            • @MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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              62 months ago

              Mate, I didn’t have anything more useful to say, so I went something funny. Your last sentence did kinda come across as “these swill-drinking bastards can’t recognize good coffee anyway,” but I apologize if I stressed you out or hit a nerve. If it seems I put no effort into reading/replying to your comment, it’s because I didn’t. Have a good day, bud.

              • @halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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                22 months ago

                Where did I say Starbucks didn’t use beans? I’ll wait…

                I said Starbucks burns their shit. It’s the McDonald’s of coffee. Speed, quantity, and consistency across tens of thousands of locations worldwide at the lowest cost possible; quality is not a primary factor. It’s why their business is focused around hiding the crap coffee with milk and syrup.

        • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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          02 months ago

          Not all instant coffee is terrible. There’s a wide variety in quality there just like with full beans.

          That’s true. Consumers have more choices and better options than in the past. But comparing it to pretty much any brand whole bean, ground fresh and properly extracted, absolutely not. No comparison. I would take Starbucks, Keurig (there’s a ton of varieties, many decent), or Folgers any day over an instant…

    • @ladicius@lemmy.world
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      Instant coffee which is made from instant and not from coffee?

      Those maga dead brains really know how to solve problems.

      • @MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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        12 months ago

        I like different coffee for different purposes. Instant coffee is mostly made from commodity coffee and blends in Robusta (which I don’t like, personally).

        That said, in a pinch, or if I can’t be bothered with the whole shebang of a pour over or espresso. Mix in a little milk and sweetener and it’s quite enjoyable.

        That all being said, this is some mega MAGA copium they’re pumping out.

    • teft
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      52 months ago

      Instant coffee isn’t shamed here in colombia. It’s actually the most popular way to drink it. It’s prepared extra sweet with no milk and they call it tinto.

      • @GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.social
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        32 months ago

        That’s great and all, but taking away an option and saying “the other option is good so why bother getting upset about it” is minimalizing the core issue. International tariffs are going to reduce consumer options and artificially raise prices.

        That’s totally ignoring the ethical sourcing issues with coffee as well. Specialty coffee companies have been working directly with growers in countries like Colombia, Peru, Uganda, Indonesia, etc. to give them fair wages and to combat monopoly pricing in the industry. I’ve spent $100 on a drum roaster to be able to buy green coffee from responsible companies that pay farmers a living wage. In the end, my home-roasted coffee costs less per pound than Great Value brand pre-ground coffee from Walmart. So now if buying green coffee gets too expensive, I’m expected to go from roasting for my own taste preference, grinding fresh beans, and brewing espresso…to instant coffee. Which in the United States is almost universally bitter dark roasted coffee with no regionally distinct tastes.

      • Admiral Patrick
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        32 months ago

        Interesting. I don’t hate instant coffee, but never really buy it either except for the occasional tiny jar of decaf to keep on hand if Grandma visits (that is her jam lol).

        The Simpsons reference was more toward the “cheaper alternatives” mentioned in the same quote, though.

        • @AA5B@lemmy.world
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          I just bought some, but only as an ingredient for yogurt and bread. Maybe a bbq rub

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    782 months ago

    “The way that you lower prices is that you encourage more capital investment into our country,” Vance added.

    This clown hasn’t a clue how the economy works.

    • He knows a lot better than the clowns that voted him in. Lowering prices would mean deflation and that’s pretty much universally seen as a bad thing. The best you can do is increase wages. Of which the GOP will do nothing about.

  • @HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world
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    332 months ago

    It seems like it’s kept in the same binder Trump keeps his healthcare plan and his plan to end the war in Ukraine

    Trump just wants to be president, he doesn’t want to do president

      • TimmyDeanSausage
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        32 months ago

        Yeah, these zellenials spending all their time eating avocado taquitos on their memory foam mattresses are destroying the economy. In my day, we slept on asbestos and mouse poop mats and we liked it.

    • Columbia’s biggest export to the U.S. is crude oil. So oil prices higher from Canada, this would have been higher oil prices from Columbia… But I believe he didn’t do the tarrifs. Guys a dumbass

      • TimmyDeanSausage
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        12 months ago

        Well, we’re only 8 days in. Still plenty of time for him to tariff all of our tits off.

  • 2ugly2live
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    312 months ago

    You mean the man who said he had concepts of a plan didn’t have a plan? Color me shocked.

  • @BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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    272 months ago

    increasing capital investment and job creation.

    So giving rich people money, same plan as the last forty years.

    Brilliant.

    • @zib@lemmy.world
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      82 months ago

      Listen, I’ve heard from a very reliable source that there is a concept for a plan.

  • ObliviousEnlightenment
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    222 months ago

    “Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.”

    Almost like it was never about egg prices at all for alot of them

  • bitwolf
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    222 months ago

    Supporters, however, downplayed price hikes, suggesting cheaper alternatives like instant coffee.

    Translation:

    Let them eat cake

  • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    182 months ago

    Oh hey, that’s his plan for healthcare costs too.

    Funny enough, not his plan for how to resolve issues with minorities wanting rights

    • @Subtracty@lemmy.world
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      22 months ago

      Executive orders don’t work for things like reigning in corporate greed. They work for everything else. But helping a large portion of the nations backbone? Can’t do it. Won’t even try.

      -DJT (probably)

  • @kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
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    suggesting cheaper alternatives (to coffee) like instant coffee.

    I… I… I can’t even. What do these people think instant coffee is? It’s still fucking coffee. Freeze dryed concentrated coffee. You still need coffee beans to make it. The price hike will still make instant coffee more expensive too. You’re. So. Fucking. Stupid. MAGA.

  • @ChiefGyk3D@infosec.pub
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    162 months ago

    Most of these clowns have no idea of how basic economics work. They don’t even understand basic US history. We tried the tariffs and isolationism route, guess what happened? Great Depression.