Maybe bring back windows live messenger
That sucks. This is my main way of video-calling my family overseas. It’s also gonna suck for people who use it for 2fa for US accounts (though I think most don’t work with Skype and known voip numbers anymore so maybe not a huge deal).
It also sucks for those of us who need to call US numbers from overseas. I need to call a tax prep company and would rather not pay a fortune. Google also cracked down on those proven to be fully overseas with a voice number.
I’m still sad they got rid of MSN Messenger in favour of Skype. MSN had superior video and audio quality.
I had so many international friends on MSN Messenger that I have no idea how to contact any more.
Dumbasses.
Well that sucks, I use it a lot but I will not use Teams.
Amazing how Skype went from a verb to the shadow realm. MS could’ve done so much more.
Would seem almost intentional given the size and success of the company. How do you fuck something like that up so badly? Seems like one of those Embrace, Extend, Extinguish deals or similar
Skype was always shit. It was being first to market that made it popular. It was one of the first ways to get cheaper and free informational calling. By the time MS purchased it vent and ts became popular as well as zoom and others entering the space.
I agree with you here. They just never kept up with what people wanted or needed out of a communications platform. When Discord showed it was more versatile nearly 10 years ago, my whole group switched and never looked back.
Skype call sounds still bring specific kinds of nostalgia though.
They treated it as an extension of the telephone is how I always thought about it.
I miss vent, it was so clean
Mumble existed then, and still exists now. Vent was literally never clean, it was always bloated and behind.
(sorry, I’m very passionate about the Vent vs. Ts vs. Mumble debacle of the early aughts)
One of the things skype did first and best was decent noise filtering, transforming peoples shit audio equipment to something you could listen to for more than 5 minutes without going crazy.
For sure, Skype/eBay did a lot right at first. But by the time MS bought it, it was already falling from favor.
Word on the street is that MS couldn’t harvest the data they wanted out of Skype, even after turning off the encryption. So they let the Skype team keep on going because of reasons, while silently replacing them with teams.
Teams has a lot of Skype references under the hood…
yep, i was always under the assumption they bought it for parts to use in teams.
Well yeah “shutting down” here is more like “absorbed” into teams. They don’t make “enough” money from consumers to keep it going, but they do from their teams subscriptions. The tech is and will further be ported to teams and the branding changed.
Wait…MICROSOFT owns skype??? Was this always the case, or did they do something stupid where they bought skype during the heyday, and immediately tank it just a few years before the pandemic? Because Zoom really had a field day in 2020.
So, which is it? Did they always own it, or were they a buyer of an established skype that tanked it like Verizon did with tumblr? Or that other company did with myspace?
If I remember correctly MS bought it from eBay. And then promptly did their best job at taking a dump on it. Nothing MS did to Skype was good, disabled encryption by default, removed features, made the network so terrible that they actually make you consider teams. At one point Skype was the only game in town for personal web calls and chats, in the US at least. MS pissed that away, because killing competition and owning patents is more lucrative than creating good products and services.
The biggest thing they did to kill it was banner ads in the client. The second those showed up, all my friends and myself instantly jumped to the new, fledgling Discord.
Which very quickly started to add the occasional banner and constantly push nitro. It fucking sucks.
Is there a defederated version which doesn’t constantly drop quality and connection like discord does?
Matrix
Also forced people to use a Microsoft account to use it, and they definitely messed something up in the migration.
They’ve owned it since 2011. When they did buy it, they had Lync, which sucked pretty bad. Now they have Teams, probably the result of merging Lync and Skype.
Now they have Teams, probably the result of merging Lync and Skype.
And the resulting horror show is just as bad as you’d imagine to :/
It’s the second one.
Buyer. 🤡
I remember a theory that the US government asked Microsoft to purchase Skype and change it from p2p to server-based, so that they could intercept decrypted communications.
Skype was originally made by a European company (Latvian?).
Where the fuck were you in 2011?
My father, who worked for a huge computer manufacturer, was one approached by two young dudes asking for a server for their new startup. He listened to their proposition but couldn’t see how they were going to stay in business, so he turned them down and they went elsewhere for their hardware.
This was the two founders of Skype, Janus Friis and Niklas Zennström, some 20 years ago.
Remember to break this news gently to your elderly parents.
Skype is what I usually use to video chat with them but I recently got my mom to download Signal, which is nice
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I guess that skype-zoom clip was prophecy
Immigration Canada: “Prove to us that your marriage is genuine. Prove that it wasn’t for immigration purposes.”
My wife and I: “You sure you want that?”
Immigration Canada: “Make with the proof.”
My wife and I: 400 pages, front and back, of Skype call logs/timestamps. A fucking literal ream of paper
I think they just wanted you to perform a verification fuck
I would
Me who dreads having to give her husband sex when she becomes a wife and hopes he’d pity her enough to not do it to her when she’s clearly miserable and hates every second of it:
I don’t want to say the country, but when I went with my wife for me to get residency via marriage, this is how it went.
Immigration Officer: Do you have any questions? Me: No Immigration Officer: Sign here and come back in a month with your passport to implement the visa Me: Uhh… That’s it? OK Bye.