• mesaOP
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    14328 days ago

    I used to work in insurance. This might actually be the biggest blow to Testla, even more than stock prices. If people keep vandalizing the vehicles, eventually the insurance has to come due. And repair costs are not cheap, its basically only dealers and a limited number of repair places that partner.

    And insurance companies always make sure they get their money.

    • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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      What kinds of vandalism are most costly to repair, without endangering the lives of drivers, passengers and people nearby? I want to see if those are mentioned in future news coverage.

      • mesaOP
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        6428 days ago

        Paint probably.

        Also I would never support anything illegal. As the law requires.

      • YaksDC
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        Overnight, bologna can do some serious damage to paint, not sure what it might do to untreated aluminum.

      • @despoticruin@lemm.ee
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        2228 days ago

        Well, a 1:1 mixture of chlorine bleach and vinegar should damn near instantly and permanently corrode the steel. Don’t breathe the fumes, but I have toyed with the idea of a squirt gun filled with instarust.

        • @Fermion@mander.xyz
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          “Don’t breathe the fumes” seems like a bit of an understatement for a reaction that produces chlorine gas.

          • @despoticruin@lemm.ee
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            127 days ago

            If you are using household concentrations you won’t generate enough chlorine gas to be harmful in a ventilated area, like outside. If you put it in a bag and huff it you are going to have a bad time, but enough to cause damage can be tossed into a mason jar, shaken, and thrown pretty safely.

          • @despoticruin@lemm.ee
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            1727 days ago

            The acid makes it rust in seconds instead of days though, instantly visible and quite permanent damage.

            • @Ashenlux@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              327 days ago

              Days might actually be better. If they go to work and come back to it rusted all over, they will know it was a malicious action. If they start to see rust the next day and see it slowly progress, it might be hard to trace back to someone.

        • Bad_Engineering
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          DO NOT MIX BLEACH AND CHLORINE, unless you want die or seriously injure yourself. When bleach is combined with acetic acid it produces chlorine gas, a literal chemical weapon/warcrime. If you want to corrode stainless steel use regular bleach, it does the job just fine.

      • @cm0002@lemmy.world
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        Like others said, paint is expensive AF, but also the classic “Slash 3 tires” is expensive

        Extra expensive because Tesla’s (Well, EVs in general I’m pretty sure) need special and more expensive tires due to the weight

      • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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        I wouldn’t go after individual Tesla owners. It wasn’t always like this. They adopted the earliest and cheapest (in the US) EV. I won’t buy one now, but I would have three years ago.

        I understand the dealership thing. Are most of them directly corporate?

      • JWBananas
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        427 days ago

        I want to see if those are mentioned in future news coverage.

        In Minecraft, right?

      • ssillyssadass
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        IIRC, if one or two tires, or all four tires are damaged, insurance will cover it. But insurance won’t cover three tires being damaged if I understand correctly. So slash three tires per car.

  • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    So it’s actually working!
    That makes it more expensive to own a Tesla, and that’s one more thing that will make it less attractive to buy, either new or used.
    It’s debatable whether this is fair, but clearly it achieves a political goal.

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      It’s debatable whether this is fair, but clearly it achieves a political goal.

      I’d be real careful cheering vandalism / destruction of private property because you believe it achieves a political goal you agree with; eventually others will start doing do the same thing to further political goals that they agree with.

        • Suite404
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          Yea. This isn’t being started on the left. It’s being emulated.

        • Buelldozer
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          I’m struggling to come up with any examples that parallel what’s happening with Teslas.

            • I can think of many many lives that the Nazi Reigime of America have destroyed. And lives are far more important than property.

              The cars can burn.

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              This is happening all over the United States sometimes multiple times per day and being publicly celebrated in various places. I honestly can’t think of a conservative oriented example of private property destruction on this scale to this much cheering.

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                to this much cheering

                You’re not going to find this because no one is cheering for white supremacists trying to knock out the power grid because they think it will start a race war.

            • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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              That’s completely different, those are damaging people, not property. You’re allowed to attack people to protect property, you are not allowed to damage property to protect people.

              After all, I own property, but I am not the type of people getting attacked.

              /s

          • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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            I think you are right that this Tesla boycott is unique, nothing I can remember is even close.
            And what I remember goes back to the 80’s, with the Shell boycott because they supported apartheid in South Africa. That boycott was a huge deal back then. Where there was (light) vandalism, for instance removing the S from their signs, so they said hell.

            But now with Tesla, it’s a completely different league in scope and consequences. Nice to see that there is a line also for ordinary sane people. Because this is definitely a response against the insanity of fascism.

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              I have absolutely no issues with the boycott. Elon the Idiot is learning the same lesson that the Ultra Wealthy of the 1920s did; getting publicly involved with politics can cost you a LOT of money. Bezos and Zuckerburg are learning it too. All of these Billionaires are getting a very expensive lesson in why they need to stay out of the limelight.

              Because this is definitely a response against the insanity of fascism.

              I don’t think this has much to do with “fascism”. If this was only happening to Cybertrucks (which are a pretty new model) or only happening at dealerships and so impacting Tesla itself that would be one thing but WTF does someone who bought a Tesla 3 years ago have to do with “fascism”?

              This is a knee jerk reaction to what Elon is doing with DOGE and one group of people is lashing out at another group of people, many of whom having nothing to do with Tesla or it’s front man aside from having bought a product.

              • @notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world
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                Your take appears very naïve. This is actually a systematic attack against Elon Musk‘s net worth. It appears shockingly effective, it’s still very subdued compared to the hostile takeover that is ongoing in the government. Your longing for proportionality is absolutely misplaced here.

              • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                This is a knee jerk reaction to what Elon is doing with DOGE

                So it is a reaction to Fascism. Perhaps the targets could be better chosen (player 2 has entered the chat), but it is people reacting to the fascist takeover.

      • @garretble@lemmy.world
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        eventually others will start doing do the same thing to further political goals that they agree with.

        I, too, remember January 6.

      • @metaldream@sopuli.xyz
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        They already did that. Trumpers were literally burning down mail ballot boxes and shooting up power stations before the election.

    • @Snowstorm@lemmy.ca
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      I won’t be the one to indulge in vandalism but i do want the company to fold… higher price of ownership is part of the decision process for prospective buyers… let’s just say i won’t judge those that do choose the dark side!

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      Yup, my rates soared and insurance companies were dropping customers left and right. I had to abruptly trade it in and it definitely put me off buying Hyundai/Kia for the foreseeable future.

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          Ohh yeah. I remember the tech news coverage of the cars being so easy to steal, just didn’t realise there was a “challenge” about it. Unbelievable Hyundai and Kia got away without immobilisers for so long. Really cheeky of them to cut that corner, and it backfired.

          • SwizzleStick
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            They cut the corner because a lack of regulation allowed them to, in order to produce a cheaper model.

            It’s a mandatory feature in some other countries.

            • themeatbridge
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              And of course the insurance rates for those cars skyrocketed. Some insurers wouldn’t provide insurance at all for Kia or Hyundai models that were vulnerable.

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    Ironically, even without the vandalism these cars were ridiculously expensive to insure. When I bought my EV I checked insurance premiums, and it would’ve cost $100/mo more to insure a model 3 similarly priced EV from another maker.

    this is what the fanbois never bragged about when the brand used to carry some level of prestige

  • Avid Amoeba
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    Makes sense. They should make cars that don’t spontaneously combust.

  • @afronaut@slrpnk.net
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    1227 days ago

    Some higher being observing Earth from a far distance must be intrigued by the pattern recognition of us destroying one specific car while completely ignoring the thousands of others.

    Like, imagine when we look at single-cell organisms and see them swarm something. We’d never apply any kind of nuanced interpersonal/sociopolitical reasons to be the cause.