• @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    I don’t know how people can be so easily taken in by a system that has been proven to be wrong about so many things. I got an AI search response just yesterday that dramatically understated an issue by citing an unscientific ideologically based website with high interest and reason to minimize said issue. The actual studies showed a 6x difference. It was blatant AF, and I can’t understand why anyone would rely on such a system for reliable, objective information or responses.

    • @cley_faye@lemmy.world
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      018 days ago

      I don’t know how people can be so easily taken in by a system that has been proven to be wrong about so many things

      Ahem. Weren’t there an election recently, in some big country, with uncanny similitude with that?

    • @WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world
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      018 days ago

      That’s why I only use it as a starting point. It spits out “keywords” and a fuzzy gist of what I need, then I can verify or experiment on my own. It’s just a good place to start or a reminder of things you once knew.

    • @hansolo@lemm.ee
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      19 days ago

      I like to use GPT to create practice tests for certification tests. Even if I give it very specific guidance to double check what it thinks is a correct answer, it will gladly tell me I got questions wrong and I will have to ask it to triple check the right answer, which is what I actually answered.

      • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        019 days ago

        And in that amount of time it probably would have been just as easy to type up a correct question and answer rather than try to repeatedly corral an AI into checking itself for an answer you already know. Your method works for you because you have the knowledge. The problem lies with people who don’t and will accept and use incorrect output.

        • @hansolo@lemm.ee
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          019 days ago

          Well, it makes me double check my knowledge, which helps me learn to some degree, but it’s not what I’m trying to make happen.

      • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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        Can, and opt not to. Big difference. I’m sure I could ask chat GPT to write a better comment than this, but I value the human interaction involved with it, and the ability to perform these tasks on my own

        Same with many aspects of modern technology. Like, I’m sure it’s very convenient having your phone control your washing machine and your thermostat and your lightbulbs, but when somebody else’s computer turns off, I’d like to keep control over my things

    • @Zron@lemmy.world
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      019 days ago

      Yes, but what this movie failed to anticipate was the visceral anger I feel when I hear that stupid AI generated voice. I’ve seen too many fake videos or straight up scams using it that I now instinctively mistrust any voice that sounds like male or femaleAI.wav.

      Could never fall in love with AI voice, would always assume it was sent to steal my data so some kid can steal my identify.

      • @Lazhward@lemmy.world
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        019 days ago

        I thought the voice in Her was customized to individual preference. Which I know is hardly relevant.

  • @Siegfried@lemmy.world
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    019 days ago

    There is something I don’t understand… openAI collaborates in research that probes how awful its own product is?

    • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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      017 days ago

      Something bizarre is happening to media organizations that use ‘clicks’ as a core metric.

  • @MTK@lemmy.world
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    019 days ago

    I know a few people who are genuinely smart but got so deep into the AI fad that they are now using it almost exclusively.

    They seem to be performing well, which is kind of scary, but sometimes they feel like MLM people with how pushy they are about using AI.

    • @slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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      019 days ago

      Most people don’t seem to understand how “dumb” ai is. And it’s scary when i read shit like that they use ai for advice.

      • @piecat@lemmy.world
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        019 days ago

        People also don’t realize how incredibly stupid humans can be. I don’t mean that in a judgemental or moral kind of way, I mean that the educational system has failed a lot of people.

        There’s some % of people that could use AI for every decision in their lives and the outcome would be the same or better.

        That’s even more terrifying IMO.

          • @AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
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            019 days ago

            And it gets worse as they get older.

            I have friends and relatives that used to be people. They used to have thoughts and feelings. They had convictions and reasons for those convictions.

            Now, I have conversations with some of these people I’ve known for 20 and 30 years and they seem exasperated at the idea of even trying to think about something.

            It’s not just complex topics, either. You can ask him what they saw on a recent trip, what they are reading, or how they feel about some show and they look at you like the hospital intake lady from Idiocracy.

        • Prehensile_cloaca
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          019 days ago

          No, no- not being judgemental and moral is how we got to this point in the first place. Telling someone who is doing something foolish, when they are acting foolishly used to be pretty normal. But after a couple decades of internet white-knighting, correcting or even voicing opposition to obvious stupidity is just too exhausting.

          Dunning-Kruger is winning.

  • Krudler
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    018 days ago

    Not a lot of meat on this article, but yeah, I think it’s pretty obvious that those who seek automated tools to define their own thoughts and feelings become dependent. If one is so incapable of mapping out ones thoughts and putting them to written word, its natural they’d seek ease and comfort with the “good enough” (fucking shitty as hell) output of a bot.

    • @Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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      017 days ago

      I mainly use it for corporate wankery messages. The output is bullshit and I kinda wonder how many of my co-workers genuinely believe in it and how many see the bullshit.

  • @HappinessPill@lemmy.ml
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    018 days ago

    Do you guys remember when internet was the thing and everybody was like: “Look those dumb fucks just putting everything online” and now is: “Look this weird motherfucker so not post anything online”

    • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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      018 days ago

      I remember when the Internet was a thing people went on and/or visited/surfed, but not something you’d imagine having 247.

      • @Isthisreddit@lemmy.world
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        018 days ago

        I was there from the start, you must of never BBS’d or IRC’d - shit was amazing in the early days.

        I mean honestly nothing has really changed - we are still at our terminals looking at text. Only real innovation has been inline pics, videos and audio. 30+ years ago one had to click a link to see that stuff

        • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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          018 days ago

          “must of”

          "Must have", not “must of”

          Quakenet is still going strong.

          30 years ago you couldn’t share video with just a few min and a link. YouTube was not a thing. It took until early 00’s to have shitty webcam connections.

          Now you can livestream 8k

          • @Isthisreddit@lemmy.world
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            017 days ago

            Oh brother the Grammar nerds are here, as if that really takes away from what I’m saying.

            In the mid and late 90’s people knew how to make videos, they didn’t link a YouTube URL but did post links to where one could find a video online, and IRC has bots that did file transfers, as well as people would use public ftp’s as file dumping grounds.

            • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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              017 days ago

              I’m starting to wonder if you even where there.

              Yeah, people had home videos. But no-one was recording themselves talking to a camcorder to then digitise the video and upload it to an ftp server. That would’ve taken literally days.

              What you might have is some beyond shitty webcam (after 94 that is, but you said late and mid 90’s) and you might take an image of yourself and send that somewhere.

              It’s how I got my first nudes.

              What it sounds like to me is that you weren’t actually there but are nostalgic for the period.

              Flash animations were popular, actual videos only became commonplace with YouTube, which was founded in 2005.

              And even back in 2005, you couldn’t stream something to watch, the connections were so shit. You might be able to download something to watch, but not stream it.

              It’s beyond ridiculous to say things haven’t changed in 30 years. 30 years ago personal computers were a novelty, now they’re a necessity.

              • @Isthisreddit@lemmy.world
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                017 days ago

                My guy, wtf were you doing in the 90’s on a computer? of course we didn’t have streaming or just stupid useless videos that litter YouTube now, but there were video files all over the place to download and watch. For whatever reason, people were making the time and effort to digitize videos. Mpeg codecs came out in the early 90’s - I specifically remember efnet irc members posting urls to mpegs of Weird Japanese vomit porn. Amiga scene was strong too, (video toaster came out in 1990…). Not really sure why you even feel the need to doubt any of this

                • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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                  My guy, wtf were you doing in the 90’s on a computer?

                  Playing games.

                  there were video files all over the place to download and watch.

                  The amount of some 3 second quicktime clips doesn’t even begin to compare with today’s videos. And you’re pretending like downloading videos on a 56k modem isn’t complete garbage.

                  Sometimes it would take minutes for a regular html site to load. People were not browsing videos, lol. Maybe in 99 you’d have some sites for the people who had ADSL but a few clips here and there is barely comparable to 30,000 hours of material uploaded to YouTube every hour

                  Not really sure why you even feel the need to doubt any of this

                  Because you’re pretending like an incredibly niche experience you had with a thing that doesn’t even begin to compare with today is “exactly the same as it was”. No it’s not. Literally a majority of the world, ~5 billion have a smartphone. Instant access to HD videos, in their pocket, 247.

                  Back in 1995 there were about 16 million users, now it’s more than 5.5billion. 23,500 websites back in June 95. Now it’s more than 1.1 billion.

                  I’m not doubting anything. I’m calling bullshit on you pretending like there hasn’t been absolutely massive global change just because you still live in the same garage and have the same keyboard and screen.

      • @grrgyle@slrpnk.net
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        018 days ago

        I’m trying to get back to that. Actually close to it now than I was 5 years ago, so that’s cool

        • @Korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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          017 days ago

          I have a desktop and a cheap tablet. The tablet is Wi-Fi only so it’s used a bit like a laptop would be for internet access. I think this is a reasonable amount of usage. Do wish it had slightly better hardware though, struggled with web browsing because modern websites are fucking awful. Lemmy usually doesn’t crash at least. I don’t want a smartphone though. Would rather a Linux tablet but you won’t really find those cheap second hand while you can with Android.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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      018 days ago

      Remember when people used to say and believe “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet?”

      I miss those days.

  • Lovable Sidekick
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    TIL becoming dependent on a tool you frequently use is “something bizarre” - not the ordinary, unsurprising result you would expect with common sense.

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      018 days ago

      If you actually read the article Im 0retty sure the bizzarre thing is really these people using a ‘tool’ forming a roxic parasocial relationship with it, becoming addicted and beginning to see it as a ‘friend’.

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        Yes, it says the neediest people are doing that, not simply “people who who use ChatGTP a lot”. This article is like “Scientists warn civilization-killer asteroid could hit Earth” and the article clarifies that there’s a 0.3% chance of impact.

      • @WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world
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        018 days ago

        You never viewed a tool as a friend? Pretty sure there are some guys that like their cars more than most friends. Bonding with objects isn’t that weird, especially one that can talk to you like it’s human.

        • Lovable Sidekick
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          This reminds me of the pang I felt when I recently discovered my trusty heavy-duty crowbar aka “Mister Crowbar” had disappeared. Presumably some guys we hired to work on our deck walked off with it. When I was younger and did all my remodel work myself, I did a lot of demolition with my li’l buddy. He was pretty heavy and only came out for the really tough jobs. I hope he’s having fun somewhere.

      • Komodo Rodeo
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        018 days ago

        What the Hell was the name of the movie with Tom Cruise where the protagonist’s friend was dating a fucking hologram?

        We’re a hair’s-breadth from that bullshit, and TBH I think that if falling in love with a computer program becomes the new defacto normal, I’m going to completely alienate myself by making fun of those wretched chodes non-stop.