cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/19241243

Waving a big chart as a prop in the White House Rose Garden, Donald Trump suggested his new tariff plan was simple: “Reciprocal – that means they do it to us, and we do it to them. Very simple. Can’t get simpler than that.”

Perhaps a bit too simple. The method used to calculate the most important numbers in international trade, politics and economics has left some of the world’s leading experts shocked.

For each country, the White House looked up its trade in goods deficit for 2024, then divided that by the total value of imports. Trump, to be “kind”, said he would, however, offer a discount, so halved that figure. The calculation was even distilled into a formula.

  • venotic
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    903 days ago

    This is a guy who has six business bankruptcies under his belt. What could he know about the economy? If he knew anything about the economy, those businesses would still be alive and thriving.

    • @Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
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      293 days ago

      Keeping a business running takes sustained effort. This sack of shit is more in the strip out all the copper and turn a quick buck leaving wreckage in your wake type of business man.

      • With the “stripping all the copper” analogy you’re describing a strung out drug addict more than a businessman, though.

        I’m not saying you’re wrong, mind you, just that you’re not making any supporting claim for him being a businessman.

        • @Hylactor@sopuli.xyz
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          83 days ago

          I generally agree that he’s not a business man in the strictest sense. But he is undeniably “successful”. He’s lived the lavish lifestyle of his dreams, he’s never suffered any meaningful consequences, and he’s been elected president twice. Even if he is eaten alive by ants tomorrow, he’s already lived for 78 years, enjoying fame and attention, playboy interviews, committing crime with impunity, and seizing the nation itself to serve his pretty needs for vengeance. Hell, he has literally dodged a bullet. True justice is out of reach I’m afraid. It’s more like his measure of success is corrupted. Success to him is not synonymous with productivity. He is at his core, a rapist, getting what he wants is only technically the point. More important is taking it. Getting away with it. Stealing it. Breaking something. Exerting his will. That’s what he’s about. His business is spiritual, not material. It’s coercion, and force. And in this field, he is quite “successful” indeed.

    • TooManyFoods
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      153 days ago

      I mean I think I read one was bought out in the bankruptcy and is doing alright under new management. Maybe we should find the guy who bought it

    • Optional
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      93 days ago

      well, tbf for no reason at all, some of those bankruptcies were just to stick the russian mob money laundering operation under the rug and the losses to the shareholders.

      So it wasn’t just incompetence, it was also malevolence and moral bankruptcy.

  • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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    153 days ago

    Whoever did those calculations (and it wasn’t Trump, since he’s innumerate as well as illiterate) based these crude calculations on the assumption that the US economy should have a pairwise zero current-account balance with every country in the world. That’s beyond imbecilic.

  • @FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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    103 days ago

    The reason the numbers are idiotic is because they don’t need to make sense. There is no point to these tariffs other than to crash the US economy so that fat cat rich scum can buy everything and create corporate feudalism.

  • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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    93 days ago

    He absolutely believes he’s a genius who has thought of this solution to our economic problems that NOBODY else has ever considered, because nobody is as smart as he is. All this talk of how wrong it is only proves to him how much smarter he is. His tariffs are so innovative, even the most intelligent economists don’t get it.

    But he does, because he’s the most intelligent human to ever exist, and he is thinking way above them.

  • @pleasegoaway@lemm.ee
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    333 days ago

    The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

    All is going according to plan.

    • SeaJ
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      113 days ago

      It is kind of seeming like this. Anyone who has a ton of cash on hand can get amazing deals on assets. Trump has said as much.

    • Drusas
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      43 days ago

      They are also designed to give Trump leverage over companies and countries.

      • @Omega_Man@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Kind of like punching your neighbor in the face, shooting yourself in the foot, then begging your neighbor for help.

    • @Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3 days ago

      This is nonsense that gets spread way too often. The wealthy benefited from Covid, but they did not benefit from the Great Depression. Billionaires are shortsighted hoarders who can’t help but screw themselves over in their race to the top end. They really are so fucking stupid and greedy that they will crash the economy by accident, AGAIN.

  • magnetosphere
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    323 days ago

    The economists are only “stunned” because they’re used to dealing with logic, reason, and numbers that make sense. You have to throw those things out the window when dealing with Mango Mussolini, folks!

  • @TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip
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    203 days ago

    Republicans have been confidently and fully wrong about economics for like a hundred years now dude, a republican making up economic bullshit that will hurt the American people should not be a surprise.

  • @Freshparsnip@lemm.ee
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    93 days ago

    That’s what happens when you let an unqualified lunatic make decisions about things he doesn’t understand

    • Optional
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      33 days ago

      Uh excuse me, where is your ridiculously oversized truck and bedsheet-sized flags?

    • @Albbi@lemmy.ca
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      13 days ago

      Trump probably couldn’t even figure out how to stalemate or win every tic-tac-toe game.