• @Binette@lemmy.ml
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    014 days ago

    I was thinking of making one, but I’m not a woman, so I’ll think of something else

  • ZeroOne
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    Reddit is pretty pro-female, what is this riddiculous gaslighting ?

    BTW, ALL of Lemmy+Mbin are pro-female as well.

  • Diva (she/her)
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    014 days ago

    hexbear is heavily transfem and bans aggressively for misogyny/transphobia. Spending some time there when their recent domain crisis defederated from the rest of Lemmy was actually quite relaxing

      • Diva (she/her)
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        013 days ago

        that external opinion is usually either bigotry or supporting US empire from my experience. Other Lemmy spaces are just as likely to ban for wrongthink ie: not being pro genocide or whatever war libs are supporting this time.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          i’ve never seen a pro genocide lemmy instance, everytime i’ve argued against it i’ve been banned or moderated on, granted my instance isn’t pro genocide, so there’s that. But that seems to be a regular occurrence on lemmy in my experience.

          I posted one thing on the one hexbear thread people used and immediately got banned lmao, what a terrible instance. I just ended up blocking the whole thing because why even bother at that point.

  • @Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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    014 days ago

    Lemmy is aimed at pleasing all of humanity.

    Asking for a women-centric flavor of any site is parallel to asking for a version with less men. If you’re implying there is a difference to the interests of both, I’d love to show you the Greg’s Anatomy sub.

    • KillingTimeItself
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      i mean, i don’t see anything necessarily wrong with it though.

      It’s like making a linux specific lemmy instance, or an anarchist focused lemmy instance (the one im on)

      it might go against the principles of lemmy, but there’s nothing inherently wrong with it.

    • @misteloct@lemmy.world
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      Neigh, Lemmy is aimed at pleasing all the world.

      I am species blind. Asking for a species-centric flavor of any site is parallel to asking for a version with less horses. If you’re implying there is a difference to the interests of both, I’d love to show you equestrian sports.

      There is literally nothing different between any species, gender, or even a rock. Women, Men. Heck 1 + 1 = 3. Everything is exactly the same. It’s a soup of protons. It’s all the same!

    • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      014 days ago

      I think there are differences in the interests of both. Can you explain your argument here, without super obscure references?

      • @Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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        014 days ago

        We just shouldn’t consider either gender’s interests as stereotypes. Also, if a community becomes one or the other “centric”, then on some level, it’s exclusionary.

  • @MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social
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    014 days ago

    The comments here make me very disappointed in our little corner of the internet. If anyone wants this but doesn’t know how, neither do I but I’d be happy help.

    • @i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      I am disappointed but not surprised. The attitude of men here reminds me a lot of default subs in Reddit. People tend to be more civil, but there is so much “but what about men?” when talking about women’s issues or belittling women still. Business as usual on the Internet, but I can see why it would cause women to avoid Lemmy.

      I haven’t been back to Reddit, but it makes me miss the small niches where I didn’t see that as often.

      • @pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I’ve said it many times before and I’ll say it again, gender relations here are worse than they were on reddit when I stopped using it.

        • KillingTimeItself
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          i wonder if it’s not just worse on lemmy, but gotten worse over time, with the manosphere shit and all it’s relevant problems, neither feminism nor the manosphere, or traditional male gender role has really addressed this issue comprehensively, and we’re starting to see pushback from this issue in real life now, men are enrolling into college less than women, they do worse in most environments, and also are generally worse when it comes to mental health.

          I wonder if we just need like a dedicated “social issues space” where people can talk about this stuff.

        • @ameancow@lemmy.world
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          It’s a more niche “back room” kind of forum, so there are less casual browsers and more technerds here, which makes it predominantly male for a lot of reasons that require a whole other discussion to analyse, but it’s exactly like when reddit was a niche “back room” website gaining popularity.

          Lets not forget when reddit started, it was absolute chaos, some of the very worst communities imaginable where at home there, and the userbase RAGED every time some pedo or hate sub got purged. But they did get purged, and it became welcoming for a more diverse group of users to participate in. (Until the bot nation attacked)

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          I mean there’s like 3 women on lemmy, and 2 of em are trans. I don’t think there really ARE any gender relations here.

      • 3DMVR
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        womans only spaces (popping up because of male dominated spaces) do lead to male only spaces but who cares, ppl that want to be in those spaces can stay there idrc, they dont want my input I dont want theirs

        • @i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          014 days ago

          Yeah, it’s natural to have spaces that aren’t for me. It’s fine. I really just have an issue with spaces where I am supposedly welcome to be hostile towards me.

  • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    014 days ago

    Youre absolutely welcome to join Blahaj zone. Our wonderful administration team (both of whom are women) bans misogyny whenever it comes around to our communities. The mods for our main communities share a very aggressive moderation policy.

    • Realitätsverlust
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      Probably the … fourth-worst well known instance. Idk if that’s a good suggestion.

    • Lemminary
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      Pfft, I’d say overly aggressive to a fault. It’s not a good thing when they’re banning people for a passing comment where the worst offence is “gatekeeping” rather than something that matters.

    • katy ✨
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      014 days ago

      also our wonderful admin kaity did what the lemmy devs couldn’t and nuked the dm spam :)

      • @StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        013 days ago

        It really seems like instance admins tend to do a much better job with a lot of stuff on here than the core devs. Its a shame that forking would take as much work as it would.

        • @AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
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          013 days ago

          well some of the devs are too busy arguing over which authoritarian boot tastes the best, all under the guide of leftism, so yeah I imagine the bar isn’t exactly high

    • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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      014 days ago

      They also ban real users instead of the people literally calling their gender “dragonfucker” and “attack helicopter”

      The blahaj admins are trolls

      • KillingTimeItself
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        014 days ago

        “dragonfucker” and “attack helicopter”

        i mean, if they’re doing it as a haha funny, i see no harm, but if they’re also being assholes, i think that takes precedent. You aren’t legally required to fill in your gender tagging appropriately so.

        • @boonhet@lemm.ee
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          I haven’t seen the attack helicopter and the joke is pretty damn old tbh, but drag at least is/was kinda funny. Drag’s profile specified that drag’s pronoun is “drag” in not just third, but also first and second person, which is an interesting concept. Drag also stayed in character in drag’s posts. Drag didn’t ever really bother people with the whole thing IMO.

        • Like the wind...
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          They are an asshole though, a serial pot stirring drama seeking troll that gets people banned for reacting to their ragebait. Yeah I identify as a refurbished ebike and you must relearn English to refer to me, and you only rather not because you agree with literal genocide. Funny!

          • cally [he/they]
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            i dont understand, please explain further. if blahaj mods have ignored misandry, that would be a bad thing. hate is generally regarded as bad, and misandry is hatred of men. therefore, misandry should be generally regarded as bad.

            • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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              That’s true on face value. The issue is that accusations of misandry are almost always unfounded, and only made as a way to deflect and to attack women. So when people start talking about misandry, that’s generally a red flag.

              It’s similar to how “all lives matter” is definitely a true and good value - but yet it is almost always said as a way to divert support away from vulnerable groups. So although the literal meaning is good, it is fair to assume that people saying it do not have good intentions.

            • irelephant [he/him]🍭
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              You are right, but what he is calling misandry is not misandry, and so many people like him think misandry is the bigger problem now.

              • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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                013 days ago

                Misandry is a huge problem in the space.

                It’s why I couldn’t stand r/TwoXChromosomes anymore.

                The amount of people saying we should “kill all men” without being banned is insane, if someone typed the opposite they would instantly get dogpiled and removed.

                The blahaj admins have a record of supporting trolls and hateful people, just as long as they use the “right” language.

                • irelephant [he/him]🍭
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                  I feel like the whole supporting trolls thing is overblown.
                  They said that you should still use someone’s pronouns, even if they are trolling, because it sets the precedent that its okay to ignore someone’s pronoun preference.

                  Unless there is more that I missed.

      • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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        I give Ada a lot of credit. In the early days, I had the following interaction:

        TOPIC: Something about sexual/gender preferences, I don’t remember, asking people their preferences

        Me: responds with my preferences (I’m straight cis male, I like women so I’m down with post-transition trans women but pre-transition don’t turn me on)

        Some random user: respectfully asks if I would be willing to date a pre-transition trans man

        Me: I guess, but it probably wouldn’t work due to the fact that what I like about their body, they hate

        Some of those professionally offended people took a misleading screenshot of my response and started screaming about “chasers”.

        Ada did an admin post to the community backing me up and calling those idiots out.

        So unless she’s changed a lot, I don’t think she’s a troll. It would have been easy to go with the mob but she stuck up for me.

        • @vxx@lemmy.world
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          Still could be TERFS.

          I don’t have any deeper knowledge of that instance, just what I saw in all, so I don’t want to put anything on them. That thought just came across reading your comment.

          I have made a mental remark in the past that the posts and users on this instance are better treated from afar, though.

          • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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            It’s pretty harsh to just casually suggest that a person be a TERF without any specific evidence.

      • @sudo@programming.dev
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        The pronoun was just “drag”. PJ is the one who kept calling them “dragonfucker”. You can go read dragonriders comments instead of just repeating gossip.

          • @sudo@programming.dev
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            They were already banned for other trolling behavior, just not because they used neopronouns. Please get an actual bearing on reality.

            • @SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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              013 days ago

              Sorry I’m not allowed to use that space because I called a troll a troll before the Admins felt like doing their fucking jobs.

              I’m not going back now, blahaj is a cess pool controlled by trolls.

    • @Konkyer@lemmy.world
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      013 days ago

      As much as I appreciate the community and users, there are (or at least were) serious moderation problems on Blahaj, I did not feel safe there when I tried it a year or two ago.

      • @LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I definitely cannot agree. I encourage anyone who has any issues with moderation to make a post in the Blahaj meta community. Ada and Kaity have been spectacular and have responded to every issue I have come across. There are limits, they can’t preemptively prevent any kind of moderation issue but they respond quickly.

  • @Eiri@lemmy.ca
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    But like what even is a social media for women? I wasn’t aware the ones we currently have were for men

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      Its all technically ran by trans women which is mildly interesting, like the mods of 2x and the others on reddit and here I think

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        014 days ago

        on reddit every female sub is ran by the same woman

  • Snoopy
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    I find this idea pretty cool, i hope they will succeed to achieve that. Imo, we lack diversity on the forum6erse except maybe mastodon.

    It would provide an additional layer, another governance, they could also benefit a lot from local community and can check vote…Other have already mentionned good example with blahaj, beehaw.

    On the other hand, it will render the instance more visible.

    • Rose
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      Speaking in general: Creating communities/instances is easy. Moderating them is hard.

      In particular: I would love to create women’s spaces. But then I’d have to be on the lookout for the Knights of the True Fedora. They’re out there. Somewhere. Now now, I’m not suggesting it’d be a daily problem! …But the actual daily problems (regular spam and whatnot) would suck too.

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    Be the change you wish to see in the world.

    It really comes down to this: if you want your own space for particular interests, you should create one and find likeminded people to populate it. Just waiting for it to magically appear isn’t going to work. Be assertive.

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      This was just a post to see if there already is something like described

  • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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    almost all the subs that “are women” are basically astroturfed by men, or some of them are male users posting as a “woman”

  • Draconic NEO
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    lemmy.blahaj.zone has a decent amount of women and both their admins are women, it’s not a “women’s space” as one would describe since everyone is welcome there but it’s probably the closest thing one would describe as an instance “by women for women”. I am obligated to mention that it is a queer instance and that many of the women there are either trans themselves or strongly supportive of trans people, and do not tolerate transphobia or anti-LGBT sentiment (including refusal to support LGBTQ people) at all.

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      spinster exists but I think its the opposite where its antitrans

      • Draconic NEO
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        Yeah Spinster is generally considered a hate site, and consequently is very widely defederated, even from general purpose instances like lemmy.world. Also it’s less of a Reddit alternative and more of a Twitter alternative but is technically redundant since you can do everything you did on there on the real thing instead.

    • @Konkyer@lemmy.world
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      As much as I appreciate the community and users at Blahaj, in my personal experience, the moderation was fairly wanting. At least a year or two ago (not sure about now), they tolerated some pretty freakish right-wing people who enabled chasers and other weird shit on their communities.

      • Draconic NEO
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        They certainly do not seem very tolerant of that now, they very commonly ban people for thinly veiled homophobia and transphobia that would normally slide on other sites. They do not even seem mildly willing to tolerate the intolerant.

      • @Taleya@aussie.zone
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        blahaj.zone is a great one I’ve found. Extremely inclusive, brooks absolutely no bullshit from bad faith actors.

        Is also very very queer tho JSYK

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        Either can describe a bar that throws out Nazis or a Nazi bar, depending on perspective.

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            Nah I’m demanding clarity. A clear question “Do you mean excluding TERFs or excluding women” and the answer is “I want to be inclusive”. It may not be meant as such, and I’m definitely not implying that it was, but that’s exactly how a TERF would evade questioning.

            A clear “Fuck TERFs” would have provided plenty of clarity, and been much shorter. Also, it would have said “Fuck TERFs”.

            • @LwL@lemmy.world
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              Idk man “exclusionary” is literally part of terf I don’t think there’s much ambiguity there. Fuck terfs though.

              • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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                They’re also complaining about “women being excluded from women’s spaces by agents of the patriarchy posing as women”. They’re also not necessarily using “TERF” as a label. They’re using typical fascist-style “words mean whatever we want them to mean in the moment” type of stuff, hiding clear-cut positions behind pretend nuance, hence why I favour clarity.