I’ve always been told that Hitler was a masterful public speaker; that his support can largely be explained by his compelling, if not mesmerizing hold on crowds. This narrative is not common, it’s universal.

Sometimes I think this is emphasized over how much the crowds approved of the content of his speech.

How do native German speakers feel when they view footage of Hitler? Do you think the reputation is earned?

  • @Onionguy@lemm.ee
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    In school, we never just watched a Hitler speech and were asked “here, have a look, whatdaya think?” It is always, from the beginning, embedded in critical, solemn reminders to see it as the darkest chapter in history. We (at least in my school education) were taught how easily masses are manipulated by emotions, groupthink crowd dynamics and psychology. How strong and blinding tribalism can be.

    So to answer your question, what do I, as a German whose grandfather fought in France for the bad guys feel when I see a Hitler speech?

    Anger for people who lose their capacity for rational thinking and let themselves be blinded by emotions. Anger about rethoric. And a deep unsettling sense of dread, shame and sadness.

    • @SomeGuy69@lemmy.world
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      I fully agree. So much sadness, seeing the uninformed, doing the same mistakes we warn for every day. It’s depressing, because even if you try to look at the brighter side and at the larger part of people who are kind and anti fascism. To know that group dynamics could destroy all of this in a year. Humans are capable of the worst, even when they believe in acting in good faith. Truth is, we humans are too easily manipulated and fear of isolation when standing up to the crowd makes people cowards. What is “good” is sadly just a matter of perspective and not even a question about quantity. When times get dire, the people will follow the easy solution.

      • UnfortunateShort
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        I want to believe we have gotten better and “wehrhafte Demokratie” is not just a throwaway slogan. In sum, “only” about 25% are voting populist, be it put of protest, spite, for your own benefit ot out of crooked conviction. That means 75% are still somewhat reasonable and I want to see this as a positive thing.

    • @treadful@lemmy.zip
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      01 month ago

      We (at least in my school education) were taught how easily masses are manipulated by emotions, groupthink crowd dynamics and psychology. How strong and blinding tribalism can be.

      Very cool. Wish we had more of this in my culture.

      • JustEnoughDucks
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        01 month ago

        Still doesn’t seem to work.

        Tribalism + fearmongering propaganda + times of financial hardships is more effective than education.

        See: afd popularity in germany

    • @lennybird@lemmy.world
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      01 month ago

      Any way you can bring some of those critical-thinking skills over here to the US, by chance?

      In all sincerity, great comment.

      • In the deepest of ironies, the Allies set Germany up post-war to do a far better job with their governing and constitution (yes, yes, nothing is perfect!) than the US can do with it’s own. Especially with the critical and analytical eye on its own history.

        The US just keeps sweeping everything under the rug called “When America Was Great” while ignoring the parts that were racist, colonialist, etc.