I mean, can you blame them? If someone waves their arm that doesn’t make them a Nazi. It only empowers Trump when people overreact to everything. If Elon is saying Heil Hitler or publicly saying he is a Nazi, that is different. However, waving an arm doesn’t make someone a Nazi & is ridiculous if you think about it. I’m so tired of stupid PC police trying to claim everything is offensive.
Have you seen the video? He did an unmistakable Nazi salute to the crowd, then turned around and did the same Nazi salute towards the USA flag. This was as Sieg heil as Nazi salutes come.
In no time ever has a Nazi gripped their heart like that before reaching out their hand. I just went through countless videos of fucking Nazis to confirm this. Stop spreading misinformation /disinformation
So a Nazi salute has to be totally historically accurate for you to see it for what it is, but you can “give your heart” to an audience with a hand raised and downturned and you have no issue with that explanation? If you give, your hand is generally upturned. That is the gesture. Golly gosh I wonder why he did it that way instead 🤔🤔🤔 total mystery.
So according to you, Elon Musk has his heart in his upper left side longue, close to his left shoulder. Sounds like one special kind of human.
And if that’s just waving, then why according to you did he wave to the American flag? Is that just how south-africans salute the usa flag, by “waving” at it?
And I also call bullshit on the claim of having watched countless videos. If you had, then you had seen a much greater variety of Nazi salutes. Nazis as they got older and/or higher in the Nazi hierarchy, they became sloppier with the Nazi salutes. Sometimes the mind is willing, but the body says no.
Elon Musk does an unmistakable Nazi salute, you claim he was just “waving”, despite there not even having been a waving motion, just the one swing from left shoulder to full extended right arm, which is a textbook Nazi salute. And now you come with whataboutism about Hamas and I don’t even know what’s the point of it.
So he moved his arm & thanked Trump for securing the nations future? “OMG!!! Halp us please the world is ending he said thank you to Trump! I’m melting… oh, I’m melting. Nazi! Racist! Homophobe! Bigot!”
Crime has went down substantially towards minorities. Gay & Trans hate is real, but no where near the level of half the country ready to kill you at a moments notice. I am pro LGBTQ+ and display my support, never had an issue. Not saying they don’t exist, but it is not very common & many of those listed on that page aren’t necessarily hate crimes. I understand why Trump would be concerning, especially the far-right religious zealots, but I don’t think you have that much to worry about right now.
remember guys, it’s only a nazi if they do a nazi salute while saying “heil hitler I’m a nazi kill all jews and other minorities” just like it’s only a racist if they’re burning a cross and yelling the hard R and saying “I’m a racist”, but only if they do it all at the same time. 2 out of 3 doesnt qualify.
Being proud of things you had nothing to do with is incredibly stupid. I’m happy to be here, yes, but what the fuck should I be proud of? I didn’t do it myself. And the rest of your message just shows how clueless you are of everything outside of your hate bubble. So, no, you won’t get to anger me.
Wow, so authoritarian & oppressive with a keyboard. The fascist in you is showing. It was projection all along. In person though, you’d cower & eat a shit sandwich if the Democrats told you to like the good little cult follower you are.
No, that’s not me. I’ve spent my life in activism upstanding those with less privileges and brawling with the NYPD tearing down barricades throughout the 90s, beginning with them beating my ass as a child. I also spent my youth beating the shit out of guys bigger than me. What have you ever done in your life to stand up for anything you espouse?
Now shut the fuck up with your glass jaw tough guy because someone is going to break your skull with that keyboard one day. Better watch who you mouth offline with that attitude keyboard warrior… You don’t count anymore. You chose not to count. Stop fighting with strangers to deal with your guilt you fucking snowflake cuck bitch. You’re not welcome here.
Lol you are projecting your authoritarian fantasies cause you were abused as a child? You want to feel like you can fight back & could have stopped it. Was it your parents that beat you or maybe an uncle took gratification in it? I’m sorry you were abused but it is no excuse for the wannabe violent fascist thug you’ve become. You’d get your ass beat again and have to go through the trauma again. I just don’t think you’d be able to handle it. You’re better off finding peace & love from within. It’s okay that you’re built smaller or weaker than others. You can find a hobby or job that brings you some joy.
If this kind of greeting is so much in your standard repertoire that you just accidentally without thinking go for it in such a moment… Then it is not the “stupid PC police trying to claim everything is offensive”. It is offensive. Which normal person does that?
Those are very different positions & movements even. Really you’re stretching here. Include audio of him saying “Heil Hitler” or “I’m a Nazi” and you’ve got something, but right now you have someone moving their hand, waiving, doing a karate chop, or whatever. No arm movement makes anyone a Nazi unless they also proclaim they’re a Nazi. That’s just not how it works. What is next, a peace sign suddenly means your pro-Hamas? Winking means you are anti-trans? Thumbs up means your a racist? That is how the stupid PC police works.
Never trust someone with two first names. Been following that advice my entire life and I’ve yet to find an exception, they’re always a piece of shit and usually prove that very quickly.
Context matters. This is a man futzing around with the far right in Germany, specifically, right now. The movement made is sharp, exact. It is what it looks like it is.
That is you making things up again cause you feel like you have to lie to support your cause. Projecting your own fascist ideals rather than looking in the mirror.
No, actually I’m not. No arm movement makes someone a Nazi. It’d be so funny if you traveled back in time on the year 1000 & started calling people Nazis for the way they moved their arms. It is dumb to claim that & it makes people so easy to troll if they are that susceptible to anything. “You have to fire my coworker. They moved their arm in a way & they are a Nazi.” “HR: Have they said they hate Jewish people or told you specifically that they are a Nazi?” “No, they just moved their arm.”
I mean, can you blame them? If someone waves their arm that doesn’t make them a Nazi. It only empowers Trump when people overreact to everything. If Elon is saying Heil Hitler or publicly saying he is a Nazi, that is different. However, waving an arm doesn’t make someone a Nazi & is ridiculous if you think about it. I’m so tired of stupid PC police trying to claim everything is offensive.
Has Elon said it wasn’t a Nazi salute? No.
Afaik musk is yet to explicitly deny it. Laughing at adl doesn’t count
Have you seen the video? He did an unmistakable Nazi salute to the crowd, then turned around and did the same Nazi salute towards the USA flag. This was as Sieg heil as Nazi salutes come.
In no time ever has a Nazi gripped their heart like that before reaching out their hand. I just went through countless videos of fucking Nazis to confirm this. Stop spreading misinformation /disinformation
So a Nazi salute has to be totally historically accurate for you to see it for what it is, but you can “give your heart” to an audience with a hand raised and downturned and you have no issue with that explanation? If you give, your hand is generally upturned. That is the gesture. Golly gosh I wonder why he did it that way instead 🤔🤔🤔 total mystery.
This needs to be auto-replied to every doubting asshole.
I’m doing my part manually 😛
So according to you, Elon Musk has his heart in his upper left side longue, close to his left shoulder. Sounds like one special kind of human.
And if that’s just waving, then why according to you did he wave to the American flag? Is that just how south-africans salute the usa flag, by “waving” at it?
And I also call bullshit on the claim of having watched countless videos. If you had, then you had seen a much greater variety of Nazi salutes. Nazis as they got older and/or higher in the Nazi hierarchy, they became sloppier with the Nazi salutes. Sometimes the mind is willing, but the body says no.
Nothing I say to explain further why it isn’t a Nazi salute won’t matter. It’s evident your bias will cloud any rational discourse.
You’re such a rational enlightened person.
For the rest of us:
https://youtu.be/4xGawJIseNY
I still would love to hear your explanation of why he is “waving” at the American flag.
https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1i68puj/have_we_learned_nothing/
You sure about that?
I heard giving a peace sign means your pro Hamas. Clearly if you give a peace sign that means you support Hamas.
What the hell are you on about?
Elon Musk does an unmistakable Nazi salute, you claim he was just “waving”, despite there not even having been a waving motion, just the one swing from left shoulder to full extended right arm, which is a textbook Nazi salute. And now you come with whataboutism about Hamas and I don’t even know what’s the point of it.
What kind of troll are you?
A poor one.
Yeah, I already had him marked as a “both sides” troll lol.
I know you wanted to be sarcastic but you ended up not making any sense.
He did the salute. And talked about the Great Replacement Theory. And endorsed the fucking AfD. And named himself Kekius Maximus.
He’s a Nazi, Jack, wake up.
He done it twice and repeated a version of the 14-words after it, thanking them for securing the nations future.
So he moved his arm & thanked Trump for securing the nations future? “OMG!!! Halp us please the world is ending he said thank you to Trump! I’m melting… oh, I’m melting. Nazi! Racist! Homophobe! Bigot!”
I didn’t say any of that I just said he definitely meant to do a Nazi salute.
Okay, prove it. Tell everyone how one of the biggest supporters of the Jewish state plans to eliminate Jews.
Why would I need to prove something I didn’t say?
You can do a Nazi salute without wanting to exterminate all Jews. Learn some nuance.
That’s just called moving your arm dude.
They’ve done a number on you brother
Watch out, don’t stick your leg straight out that means you’re a racist.
That’s coming from the people that are ready to kill on the sight of rainbow colors on some fabric.
Who is killing who? When & where was the last murder?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States
Crime has went down substantially towards minorities. Gay & Trans hate is real, but no where near the level of half the country ready to kill you at a moments notice. I am pro LGBTQ+ and display my support, never had an issue. Not saying they don’t exist, but it is not very common & many of those listed on that page aren’t necessarily hate crimes. I understand why Trump would be concerning, especially the far-right religious zealots, but I don’t think you have that much to worry about right now.
Fucking doubt that.
If someone is harassing/targeting you, then you should report it immediately.
remember guys, it’s only a nazi if they do a nazi salute while saying “heil hitler I’m a nazi kill all jews and other minorities” just like it’s only a racist if they’re burning a cross and yelling the hard R and saying “I’m a racist”, but only if they do it all at the same time. 2 out of 3 doesnt qualify.
Remember, this person wants to tell you that moving your arms in a way they don’t like turns you into a Nazi.
Yes, and I agree with them. Musk is a disgusting racist Nazi asshole.
Musk hates Jews? Doesn’t seem like it:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/dec/06/elon-musk-israel-trump-gaza-hostage-deal
Yes. At best, he is an apologist for Israel/Zionism which does not represent Jewish people as a whole. Zionists hated Holocaust victims and were Nazi collaborators.
Friend, there’s no way you can convince anyone, especially not a German. Shuffle back into the shadows.
The same Germans that lock people up for calling the police Nazis… You’re proud of your pro-fascist state that resembles your Nazi beginnings?
Being proud of things you had nothing to do with is incredibly stupid. I’m happy to be here, yes, but what the fuck should I be proud of? I didn’t do it myself. And the rest of your message just shows how clueless you are of everything outside of your hate bubble. So, no, you won’t get to anger me.
Like clockwork
Yeah, they are social engineering & making Democrats look really pathetic.
You voted for Stein. You don’t get opinions, bitch. At least vote for the person you’re choosing to elect you spineless piece of shit.
So, Nazi salute = bad
Vote for genocide = good
Bad faith argument. ✌️
Wow, so authoritarian & oppressive with a keyboard. The fascist in you is showing. It was projection all along. In person though, you’d cower & eat a shit sandwich if the Democrats told you to like the good little cult follower you are.
May i ask, why you spend so much time today defending musk doing the facist salute?
I mean you could have done many more productive things, why white knighting the allegedly richest man in the world?
Democrats aren’t dressed in Biden or Kamala gear head to toe. You’ve got it wrong where the cult behavior is. And easily so.
What does the Biden shit sandwich taste like? Some ice cream mixed with Alzheimers, genocide, and some oligarchy sprinkled on top?
No, that’s not me. I’ve spent my life in activism upstanding those with less privileges and brawling with the NYPD tearing down barricades throughout the 90s, beginning with them beating my ass as a child. I also spent my youth beating the shit out of guys bigger than me. What have you ever done in your life to stand up for anything you espouse?
Now shut the fuck up with your glass jaw tough guy because someone is going to break your skull with that keyboard one day. Better watch who you mouth offline with that attitude keyboard warrior… You don’t count anymore. You chose not to count. Stop fighting with strangers to deal with your guilt you fucking snowflake cuck bitch. You’re not welcome here.
Lol you are projecting your authoritarian fantasies cause you were abused as a child? You want to feel like you can fight back & could have stopped it. Was it your parents that beat you or maybe an uncle took gratification in it? I’m sorry you were abused but it is no excuse for the wannabe violent fascist thug you’ve become. You’d get your ass beat again and have to go through the trauma again. I just don’t think you’d be able to handle it. You’re better off finding peace & love from within. It’s okay that you’re built smaller or weaker than others. You can find a hobby or job that brings you some joy.
Cool. What is your walkaround for the crap he’s pulling in Germany’s politics right now, with their far right?
He can be both a nazi, and not do the back salute? Not sure 😂
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If this kind of greeting is so much in your standard repertoire that you just accidentally without thinking go for it in such a moment… Then it is not the “stupid PC police trying to claim everything is offensive”. It is offensive. Which normal person does that?
Edit: I mean, seriously, look at this
Taken from https://lemmy.world/post/24527348 I just include it here in case that post is deleted.
What? That’s just Hitler doing an awkward gesture.
Those are very different positions & movements even. Really you’re stretching here. Include audio of him saying “Heil Hitler” or “I’m a Nazi” and you’ve got something, but right now you have someone moving their hand, waiving, doing a karate chop, or whatever. No arm movement makes anyone a Nazi unless they also proclaim they’re a Nazi. That’s just not how it works. What is next, a peace sign suddenly means your pro-Hamas? Winking means you are anti-trans? Thumbs up means your a racist? That is how the stupid PC police works.
Never trust someone with two first names. Been following that advice my entire life and I’ve yet to find an exception, they’re always a piece of shit and usually prove that very quickly.
Nice gaslight attempt.
Context matters. This is a man futzing around with the far right in Germany, specifically, right now. The movement made is sharp, exact. It is what it looks like it is.
“My coworker made a sharp movement with his arm. This proves he is a Nazi!”
“HR: Have they said they are a Nazi or that they hated Jews?”
“No, but they made a sharp hand gesture!”
Go for it. See how ridiculous you sound.
Yeah very different motions. Makes people look pathetic to focus on a hand movement.
Yes, they have endorsed the great replacement theory.
More like that guy hanging out in the Nazi bar…
-“Does he say he’s a nazi?”
No, but he does the nazi salute.
-“tHaT doesn’t prove anything!!!”
That is you making things up again cause you feel like you have to lie to support your cause. Projecting your own fascist ideals rather than looking in the mirror.
That is you licking the fascist boot of the genocide supporter & now here complaining that your decisions helped Trump get re-elected.
The part of Gul Madred will now be played by timewarp@lemmy.world.
To which I say to you: THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS.
Don’t be a Gul. It’s not cool.
And here I am, 45 years old and never accidentally made this motion. How unlikely of me.
“Everyone does these things, sometimes it just a slip of the tongue.”
“I’ve never once done a Hitler salute accidentally, nor said the N word in a heated gamer moment.”
“You’re just weird, everyone is a closeted racist like I am!”
I can totally see the difference. One is in colour and the other is in black & white. Ergo, not a Nazi salute. Got it.
Hahaha, just wtf. You’re just trolling, I get it, it can be fun.
No, actually I’m not. No arm movement makes someone a Nazi. It’d be so funny if you traveled back in time on the year 1000 & started calling people Nazis for the way they moved their arms. It is dumb to claim that & it makes people so easy to troll if they are that susceptible to anything. “You have to fire my coworker. They moved their arm in a way & they are a Nazi.” “HR: Have they said they hate Jewish people or told you specifically that they are a Nazi?” “No, they just moved their arm.”
Nah, it’s cool, no need to double down. I get what you are doing.
Elon could come out in a SS uniform and you’d probably just suggest he’s really into historical reenactment, give me a fuckin break.
You really love to role play Nazi fantasies in your head don’t you? It is called projection. You are projecting your fascism.
Ok so this is just low effort trolling. Bye.
Okay, bye. Maybe now you’ll look in the mirror & see for yourself.
“Guys, guys. Since Musk isn’t from Germany, he’s not a Nazi! It’s just sparkling fascism! Totally different!”
Go into work today and do this to everyone you see then. And don’t half ass it. Straight arm, hand down, up at an angle. Direct eye contact too.