I just came back from Thailand. I got a Grab and driver pulls up in a BYD. I have never been in one. It is a really nice car from what I can see. I asked dude how much the car was. He said it was under ฿1M Which is $30,000 US. I was shocked.
I’ve only tried the peugeot 208 electric version, but my God is it an absolutely shit vehicle. Terrible range, terrible charging speed (much bigger issue than the limited range), bad driver assistances. Their TACC is about the worst I’ve tried with random phantom brakes all the time and poor reaction time (both reducing and increasing speed). All in all it feels much cheaper than it actually is, which is too bad.
He said it was under ฿1M Which is $30,000 US. I was shocked.
That’s what heavily state subsidised and controlled manufacturing will get you. Not saying it’s bad, but it is just the reason they’re so cheap compared to many other brands that are not subsidised as heavily from their government.
Probably analogous to command economy? Basically all industry is centrally planned, so it’s not company A decides it wants to make some widget and company b decides they want to use company A’s widget in their new product that they’ve independently decided to make. The government says we need <product> which needs <widget>, thus company A shall make <widget> and company B will use <widget> to make <product>.
This is by no means an accurate representation of the whole system or an opinion on either, but just to give a simple idea of the difference.
I just came back from Thailand. I got a Grab and driver pulls up in a BYD. I have never been in one. It is a really nice car from what I can see. I asked dude how much the car was. He said it was under ฿1M Which is $30,000 US. I was shocked.
I saw hybrids and electric cars everywhere there.
They are outlawed in the US. As to why we don’t see them. They have fully robotic fabrication at their facilities. No humans involved.
Land of the free ^for the rich^.
No. It’s to protect domestic manufacturing. It helps save union jobs.
Union jobs like at Tesla?
I understand. But it’s protecting the Big 3. Not Tesla.
Meanwhile, the US market keeps pumping out oversized, overpriced EVs all while the manufacturers complain about lukewarm consumer demand.
If they love Rand so much, let the market decide. Fucking cowards.
Same in the EU, though its changing slowly. The French started a Trend with affordable, smaller EVs.
I’ve only tried the peugeot 208 electric version, but my God is it an absolutely shit vehicle. Terrible range, terrible charging speed (much bigger issue than the limited range), bad driver assistances. Their TACC is about the worst I’ve tried with random phantom brakes all the time and poor reaction time (both reducing and increasing speed). All in all it feels much cheaper than it actually is, which is too bad.
That’s what heavily state subsidised and controlled manufacturing will get you. Not saying it’s bad, but it is just the reason they’re so cheap compared to many other brands that are not subsidised as heavily from their government.
I heard about the heavy state subsidies from someone living there. Sounds good to me.
What does controlled manufacturing mean?
Probably analogous to command economy? Basically all industry is centrally planned, so it’s not company A decides it wants to make some widget and company b decides they want to use company A’s widget in their new product that they’ve independently decided to make. The government says we need <product> which needs <widget>, thus company A shall make <widget> and company B will use <widget> to make <product>.
This is by no means an accurate representation of the whole system or an opinion on either, but just to give a simple idea of the difference.
I see so vertical integration.
Thank you for taking the time to inform me.
Are there many country governments that don’t subsidize their transportation industry?
Probably not, but not many (if any) do it to the extent of the chinese.