Please, tell me how “paying for hardware costs is enough”…

  • @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org
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    01 month ago

    So? Do, or don’t. Either their service provides people with enough value to donate to keep it running, or it doesn’t and goes under.

    Altruism doesn’t pay the bills; but it doesn’t hurt to ask. Can’t blame them for that.

    • @endofline@lemmy.ca
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      01 month ago

      The early internet was so good because it mainly consisted from academics or people willing to share knowledge and exchange it. Modern internet is dying because of the fact that most of users are leeches and don’t contribute to the equation. Most tech youtube channels are dying because there is no gratification for content creators, it takes a lot of time, money to produce the content and they get no benefit. The end effect is they shut the whole thing down, thank you for the “service”, you only contribute to the internet “quality” downfall

      • @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org
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        01 month ago

        I think you’re misreading my reply (or i worded it poorly). I agree with you 100% and do contribute to the instances I use and the content creators I watch.

    • @rglullis@communick.newsOP
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      01 month ago

      Either their service provides people with enough value to donate to keep it running

      You know what also works like that? Any other traditional business operation.

      I am saying that since 2022: we only have a shot at this succeeding if we all start putting something at stake.

      • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        01 month ago

        Are yall not sponsoring this project on patreon or otherwise?

        I pitch in something like 1-2 bucks to desalines and a few bucks to .world every month.

        • @rglullis@communick.newsOP
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          01 month ago

          You are the exception, and you will find out that even the most prolific participants here claiming that $5 per year is enough to cover the hardware costs, so he doesn’t see any reason to give more than that.

              • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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                01 month ago

                Shit aint free.

                I mean when we were over at (the bad place), people were literally donating monthly to pay for server costs. (the bad place) in the early days was basically one giant instance.

                except it didnt have a working video player. for-fucking-ever.

                so I donate a bit to my mortal enemy @desalines and a bit to lemmy.world to keep the project going. Maybe 5 bucks a month between the two?

            • RuudM
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              01 month ago

              For lemmy.world / mastodon.world including some of the smaller instances we host, it’s like 0,06 euro per active user per month. If every active user would pay 2 Euro per year that would be enough to cover hosting costs. If every active user would pay 1 euro per month, I could quit my dayjob and focus on the Fediverse fulltime.

              (Sidenote: Stux and I created the non-profit Fedihosting Foundation which owns lemmy.world … but finances are still separate for his and my instances)

                • RuudM
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                  01 month ago

                  Sending e-mail to info at lemmy dot world would be the best option. The team will pick that up.

                  (By the way: 2 EUR per year would be enough if every active user would donate that but they don’t)

                  • Blaze (he/him)
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                    01 month ago

                    Thanks, I might send an email later.

                    By the way: 2 EUR per year would be enough if every active user would donate that but they don’t

                    Indeed. Have you thought about promoting this in an announcement post?

                • @rglullis@communick.newsOP
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                  01 month ago

                  Phrased another way: “I don’t think you are allowed to make a living out of the work you do here, so thank you for accepting all this for free”.

    • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      01 month ago

      What do you mean “so?” Maybe it does provide enough value. Not enough people know that they have to pay real money to keep the servers running. Thus the request…

      • @seathru@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 month ago

        I meant it as “So what if they ask for help? Do, or don’t (donate)”

        The initial post came off to me as a dig at the admin for openly asking for money.