Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

Edit3: sort by controversal

  • @Nalivai@lemmy.world
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    013 days ago

    Plants don’t have an agent that feels negative or positive feelings. Its stimulus-response system starts and stops at that. Animals on the other hand can experience suffering and pleasure, and and it’s morally wrong to inflict the first and deny the second

    • NSRXN
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      013 days ago

      Plants don’t have an agent that feels negative or positive feelings.

      you can’t prove that

      • @Nalivai@lemmy.world
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        013 days ago

        you can’t prove that

        I also can’t prove that you have one. It’s not a standard we operate under.

        • NSRXN
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          013 days ago

          I also can’t prove that you have one

          so it’s probably not a good basis for making moral decisions

          • @Nalivai@lemmy.world
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            013 days ago

            It is. You’re already doing it, otherwise you will be having zero problems with killing and eating random humans. You just put your line at believing that humans have agency, even though you just as much can’t prove that.
            We have pretty good understanding of how biological organisms operate at this point. We don’t need to spend generations on disproving solipsism anymore.

            • NSRXN
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              013 days ago

              You just put your line at believing that humans have agency, even though you just as much can’t prove that.

              you’re projecting.

                • NSRXN
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                  13 days ago

                  you’re projecting your values and ethical system onto me.

                  • @Nalivai@lemmy.world
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                    013 days ago

                    No, I just assume you aren’t eating humans. Because it’s the only way we can continue this conversation.

            • NSRXN
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              013 days ago

              You’re already doing it, otherwise you will be having zero problems with killing and eating random humans.

              no, that’s not the basis of my moral decisions

    • NSRXN
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      013 days ago

      suffering and pleasure, and and it’s morally wrong to inflict the first and deny the second

      this is only true under a limited set of moral beliefs. most people aren’t utilitarians though