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@Cleverdawny@lemm.ee to Memes@lemmy.ml • 3 years ago

Listen here, kulak...

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Listen here, kulak...

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@Cleverdawny@lemm.ee to Memes@lemmy.ml • 3 years ago
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  • @sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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    Capital successfully fought to put lead into American’s blood and lungs for a century after it was known to be poison. To this day they’re still fighting to keep it there.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/04/why-it-took-decades-of-blaming-parents-before-we-banned-lead-paint/275169/

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2016/09/14/report-lead-paint-makers-helped-gov-walker/90349256/

    • @riodoro1@lemmy.world
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      He was joking, save your whataboutism for “serious” arguments

      • CyclohexaneM
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        They are not joking. You can see them continuing here: https://lemm.ee/comment/3563759

        And this isn’t whataboutism (not that it matters). The first commenter ridiculed socialism by using a hypothetical scenario. The second commenter showed with evidence this hypothetical scenario is actually real under capitalism.

        • @sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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          When a liberal loses an argument they yell “whataboutism” it’s their little white flag

    • @Cleverdawny@lemm.eeOP
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      You know, it took until 2003 for Russia to remove leaded gasoline from stations. The Soviets never did it LMFAO

      but nice try

      • CyclohexaneM
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        EDIT: based on another commenter, OP’s claim isn’t even factual.

        And it took the US until 1996 (after fall of USSR)? Not to mention that it was capitalism (General Motors) that spread the hoax about leaded gasoline being safe, under the guise of scientific research in 1921.

        This is not the gotcha you think it is.

        • @Cleverdawny@lemm.eeOP
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          If it was all an evil capitalist conspiracy, why did the communists go along with it? Hmm?

          • CyclohexaneM
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            It was not uncovered until much later that this scientific research was in fact a hoax to promote General Motors’ business.

            This is very easily verified with a web search. I would be happy to guide you to specific sources and readings as well.

    • @TrousersMcPants@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      You’re right, America did bad thing, clearly this completely overrides the wrongs of other countries

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        The first commenter is talking a hypothetical scenario of socialism being bad, so the second commenter (the one you responded to) responded with actual example of that same hypothetical scenario happening, but except by a capitalist power (the US). I don’t think your response makes sense at all here.

        • @Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
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          No, his response is calling out the whataboutism fallacy. The US doing something bad does not in any way, shape, or form make socialism any less shitty. It’s poking fun at the delusional people who still think it’s a good ideology despite the overwhelming evidence.

          • @sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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            Calling something “Whataboutism” infers a belief in American exceptionalism. You should question that belief.

            • @Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works
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              No, you’re just an idiot. Whataboutism is simply a fallacy. It doesn’t infer anything outside of inconsistent logic. If you feel threatened by it then it just shows that you’re disingenuous.

              • @sub_ubi@lemmy.ml
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                Explain the logical flaw in this thread’s exchange. Bonus: If you’re going with tu quoque, explain it without putting words into anyone’s mouth.

                https://www.currentaffairs.org/2022/03/is-whataboutism-always-a-bad-thing

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