Are you genuinely not familiar with the foreign money that goes into funding far-right movements in the West (and the US in particular)? Or the various international parties who stand to gain from having Trump elected?
You’re moving the goal posts. How do those prove “conservatives have been co-opted by foreign agents” and not just that conservatives are happy to take funding from other shitty people? You seriously think conservatives wouldn’t be fascist-adjacent if Russia wasn’t paying them?
Your position seems to fall under black-and-white thinking. Either they’re home-grown, OR they’re manipulated through external influences, but not both. I’m saying that both are true. If you also believe that both are true, then we’re in agreement and I don’t think we need to argue about anything.
Foreign influence or not, they propose bad ideas and lie about everything to justify their bad ideas. Something that would irreparably damage a nation given enough time and they’ve had decades.
Implying that they’re coming from the outside and aren’t home-grown conservatives
The movement could’ve infiltrated from the outside and has co-opted the home-grown conservatives
Yeah sure, you can tell yourself whatever you need to to keep believing that evil foreigners are the reason conservatives are like this
Are you genuinely not familiar with the foreign money that goes into funding far-right movements in the West (and the US in particular)? Or the various international parties who stand to gain from having Trump elected?
You’re moving the goal posts. How do those prove “conservatives have been co-opted by foreign agents” and not just that conservatives are happy to take funding from other shitty people? You seriously think conservatives wouldn’t be fascist-adjacent if Russia wasn’t paying them?
No, I’m not moving the goalposts.
Your position seems to fall under black-and-white thinking. Either they’re home-grown, OR they’re manipulated through external influences, but not both. I’m saying that both are true. If you also believe that both are true, then we’re in agreement and I don’t think we need to argue about anything.
Foreign influence or not, they propose bad ideas and lie about everything to justify their bad ideas. Something that would irreparably damage a nation given enough time and they’ve had decades.