I’m what’s known as a chronic hopper. I’m always on the lookout for new software, especially when it comes to browsers and Linux distros, but I’m here to ask you about browsers specifically. I’m fairly sure I know most of them, but I want to really know why you run what you do. In return, I will give you my experiences with the browsers that I have tried and why I hopped from them if I did.

Don’t feel the need to read the list. I’ll be more than happy to just hear your answers!

  • Firefox: One of the grand-daddy browsers. I honestly didn’t hop from it due to anything specific, but more that I’ve used it so much that I needed a change.
  • Chrome: I used this very little. Just being on it made my skin crawl. However, I still keep it around in a container because some sites straight up tell you that you have to use it to access their dashboards or application forms. While that is now much less these days (as most things will now ask for Chrome or Firefox now), it still does happen, especially on dated government sites that get updated like… once a decade…
  • Opera GX: Yup, I fell into the hype. I think I used this for all of a month before recognizing it as over-engineered and needlessly bloated. It pulls you in with gimmicks and pretty lights and that’s pretty much all it has. A browser that’s literally built on smoke and mirrors and pushy advertising.
  • Brave: There’s been a lot of huff about Brave lately, but back when it launched and wasn’t very mainstream it was the smoothest and a relatively more secure browser than the competition. There was a time when nearly everyone ran Brave. The problem started when they began to opt you into gimmicks and extra things you didn’t need without your permission. That was a turnoff for me. I outed before things really went downhill. -Floorp: A random find from exploring Linux for the first time. I was running Pop!_OS and found it on the store. I’ve never experienced such a smooth Firefox fork before. It really is barebones, but has a lot of customization built in. Instead of the custom options piling on one another, most of them change how it works on a foundational level. The style of your UI and tabs, side tabs, fading URL bar buttons, and a lot more. At it’s core, Floorp is a stripped down and security first FF fork developed in Japan. I took the time to translate the TOS pages, and most of it is promising that there is no data collection. It’s fairly vetted and trusted from what I’ve researched.
  • Vivaldi: Still one of my favorite browsers when I went back to Windows, but probably has the most bugs I’ve seen in any browser. It got better once they swapped to React portals, but Vivaldi (Windows version) would occasionally freeze my whole PC or else I’d BSOD. This was a combination of the browser’s stability and making my own custom CSS for it, but overall it frustrated me more than other browsers.
  • Qutebrowser: Still one of my favorites, and a must-have for me even if its not my main browser. I was diving into the Vimium extension for Firefox, which in turn led me to Neovim, which led me to Qutebrowser. There’s a few main points as to why I don’t use it as my go-to. First, its not very good at squashing first-party ads. Even though you can combo custom ad block lists, Brave adblock, and python-adblock, it just can’t seem to get them all. Second, I rely on my history when browsing YouTube and if you want to get around ads, your best bet is to write a custom shortcut that opens links in MPV/VLC. There are Greasemonkey scripts that should increase ad speed to a fraction of a second and auto-skip, but none of them ever worked for me and most are ancient.
  • Nyxt: My next logical step after Qutebrowser was Nyxt. However, I’ve never managed to figure out how to work it. I haven’t really done any extensive bug testing, but when it opens its just a blank window and there’s not much I could find for documentation on it. Part of me wonders if there’s something that only trusted people know that gets it working, the other part wonders if I’m just missing some sort of library or dependency. From here I went back to Floorp for a while. -Zen: I was very excited when I found this browser. Another Firefox fork, it aims to be much like Arc browser, but adds a lot more on top of that. However, in recent months I find they’ve become a little too ambitious. If you asked me two months ago, I would tell you that Zen felt just as smooth as Floorp, but these days its much, much laggier. The scrolling is choppy, the pages load slow. I use the same exact extensions on Zen as I do Floorp and the difference now is night and day. I’ve also tested this on fresh, no-extras no-extension installations and the results are the same. Zen tends to change things and instead of letting the user opt into the additions or changes, they force the changes in their updates. That type of development model just isn’t really for me. I don’t want to have to re-figure out how to use my browser every few days.

So there it is. I hop a LOT. Honorable mention is Ladybird and I’ve tested it a little. It is extremely alpha, being just a portal with the basics you need for browsing, but I’m amazed at what they’ve done so far and very excited for it’s release. For now I’ve returned to Floorp and am very happy with it. I’m very curious to know why you like what you do, whether its just because its what you’ve used for a long time or if there’s something that you can’t do without.

Also, please excuse me if this question has been asked before. I didn’t want to necro an old post and I want to be able to reply and ask more questions! I’ve seen many posts discussing a single browser, but I want a more general view. I’m very interested, because the Lemmy community often values their privacy and their rights, which is a major factor in choosing software for me.

Edit: I feel like I’m answering very quickly, but want you to know that I’m not a bot nor using AI. I type at 110wpm in Dvorak. Typing is a huge hobby of mine and would never use AI to do something I love to do for me. I’m set on getting to 200wpm (100 was my first goal). That being said, I can’t answer everyone, so I’m sorry if I missed your reply!

  • madjo
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    05 months ago

    Firefox, I even go out of my way to install it on any company laptop I get. It’s not Google owned, I can easily change the default search engine to Kagi or Ecosia.

  • @kcweller@feddit.nl
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    Zen, a heavily modified firefox. A different design paradigm than every other browser, which I personally like. Easy hot keys, runs on any OS, lots of customizability.

    Needless to say I’m a big fan!

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      I keep Zen around for the same reason. However, right now its fairly laggy and buggy so I keep checking back after updates.

  • @ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works
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    Vivaldi as my main browser and Librewolf as my second. I love the tab management and workspaces on Vivaldi, there’s nothing else like it that I’ve found. I use librewolf for all my docker local host needs. I actually really quite like it and would probably switch over but the workspace/tab thing keeps me on Vivaldi.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      The closest thing I’ve found to Vivaldi tab management without installing a bunch of custom CSS and extensions is Zen Browser. Zen would be my favorite browser if it was a little lighter, but it’s worth checking out if you like Vivaldi, imo.

      • @ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works
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        I tried Zen and while it was really nice looking it didn’t quite jive with me. One of my students suggested Floorp today, might mess around with it this weekend.

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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    05 months ago

    Firefox. It was the default in Linux Mint when I first started using a computer, and I am used to it. (Yep, I started with Linux.)

    On my phone, shamefully Opera. It’s the best for desktop web experience. I don’t like mobile websites.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      I had a very brief stint with base Opera on mobile, too, but it was so brief that I didn’t really dig into it. When I used it, it did have some QoL things I liked, but Firefox mobile caught up pretty quick and I ditched it. Before Opera, I was using Dolphin for a while.

      Have you seen Fennec or Iceraven? Nice little Firefox forks for Android that prioritize privacy and add a few great tools. I would have mentioned Mull, too, but sadly it was abandoned recently.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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        05 months ago

        Yep, I’ve got Fennec installed. But only Firefox nightly had… I don’t remember what. Probably desktop-like tabs. I forgot.

        But Firefox still has issues with scaling desktop sites which Opera does perfectly. Well, actually, Firefox does too in desktop mode. I think the only thing I am missing is permanent desktop mode. When I only changed UA, I had the scaling issues.

        Well, I just checked since I updated Fennec yesterday because I had leftover data. The toggle seems to be there now. But the tabs don’t show up desktop-style. I should re-check Firefox Nightly. I think that toggle was the only missing thing for me.

        • EyedustOP
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          05 months ago

          Weird. For me, I can’t stop Fennec from switching back to desktop mode occassionally. I can’t figure out if its a setting I have on or a bug, tbh, but its inconsistent, so I’m going to say its the latter. I’m fairly sure it can do it, though.

          I used a browser that had this… lemme take a look at my phone, I might be able to figure which one. Ah! Fulguris. It’s a pretty decent underdog browser, and even lets you customize how wide you want desktop pages to be per orientation, from what I’m seeing. I remember being able to get the tabs to view as desktop tabs, but it’s been a while since I’ve used it.

          • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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            05 months ago

            So I just tried Firefox Nightly. Seems to work fine now. I actually had disable automatic font scaling, otherwise it was funky (something too large, something too small). The desktop mode toggle is in Settings -> Site settings on top. “Always request desktop site” was on by default on my phone (possibly related to custom high DPI setting).
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    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      Lol, brief time and more in the general public. Very brief time, before it even had a mobile app. I was still on Reddit then, and it was the number one recommended everywhere. I’m foggy, but I believe it didn’t even have the wallet at the time (though correct me if I’m wrong, because I may be).

      I’ve been following browser trends since Netscape Navigator, and I catch the small shifts, no matter how brief. Though, admittedly, it may have just been the groups I ran in that used it. I can’t speak for everyone, just what I saw at the time.

        • EyedustOP
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          05 months ago

          I don’t disagree. I was young and stupid.

      • @jeffw@lemmy.world
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        I doubt it ever, even for a single day, cracked the top 3 downloads for a browser. Maybe top 3 mobile browsers in terms of downloads over a brief stretch, but not in terms of market share overall

        • EyedustOP
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          05 months ago

          Oh, no I doubt that as well. Like I said, the communities I ran in were all praising it and recommending it at the time. I’ve seen the graph charts for browser downloads. The top 3 are monoliths. But Brave did stand out for a time.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      Lol, yes I did. I only dropped Chrome completely when they dropped adblock support. Curiosity would always get me and I’d try Chrome-based browsers against my better judgement.

  • Laptop is Fedora Workstation. Here I use Brave for logins and LibreWolf+UBO is my main “forgetful” browser.

    Phone is GrapheneOS - I also use Brave for logins. Ironfox is my main browser which comes with UBO preinstalled plus a few extra blocklists which I did add to LibreWolf…

    Librewolf and Ironfox are synced through a Mozilla account.

  • @CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
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    Mostly vivaldi, but I’ve been experimenting with Zen too, a Firefox fork. I really liked what I’ve seen so far. The layout is unique, workspaces and tab management is pretty nice.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      I really love both of these browsers, I really do. They are amazing choices if you don’t have the weird bugs and lag that I’ve unfortunately experienced. I still miss Vivaldi a lot.

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        I use it with arch (btw) , haven’t had any problems in about 3 years, but I can’t speak the windows side of things. I also keep it mostly stock no custom theme or anything

        • EyedustOP
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          05 months ago

          I’m on vanilla Arch as well (btw), but I had similar experiences on NixOS and CachyOS. I think its hardware related when it comes to Vivaldi. On Windows I’d BSOD and I had huge memory leak issues on NixOS.

          I have to mess with Zen a bit more and see if its something I can fix. The lag isn’t bad, its bog-standard for a browser, but after using Floorp and now Librewolf, I can definitely feel it.

  • @mlfh@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I use Vanadium/Trivalent (GrapheneOS fork of mobile Chromium and its desktop equivalent) for general internet use on a general-use system, and Firefox inside of specific qubes for specific purposes otherwise.

    On a general-use system, the additional security of Vanadium and Trivalent give me a bit of peace of mind when using the same browser for admin work, sensitive stuff like banking, and general browsing.

    With the Qubes model, everything is segmented and isolated anyway, so I can use Firefox, which despite its flaws has been my favorite since the Netscape days.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      I have a Pixel 7 Pro I’ve been itching to put Graphene on. The fact that everything can be containerized in a stock environment is just too good. ROMs have come so far since the old days of Resurrection Remix. I remember flashing that on my old Moto X, specifically because I bought it secondhand and there was no connections at all, even after factory resetting.

      LTE, 3g, Wifi, nothing worked. So I rooted it and made sure to install the drivers alongside Resurrection Remix (which were called the modem drivers, iirc) and was surprised that everything was working. The fact that we now can run whole systems in containers is an amazing win for technology.

  • Jeena
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    05 months ago

    LibreWolf, I’ve been using Firefox ever since I switched from Mozilla browser, but nowadays with what Mozilla is doing I felt compelled to switch to LibreWolf and IronFox.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      You’re the first other user I’ve seen to mention IronFox. I have it as a backup. Its relatively new, isn’t it? And it goes beyond to make sure it’s privacy first. To the point where it won’t even connect to third party apps for login purposes. Definitely my dark horse Android browser.

      Iirc, you have to add the repository to F-Droid, which keeps it from being recognized more.

      • Jeena
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        05 months ago

        Ah that’s why it doesn’t show me the KeePassX logins, I was wondering if I broke something :D

        • EyedustOP
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          05 months ago

          Yeah, that’s what I’ve noticed, anyway. There’s a massive amount of settings to mess with, though, so I wouldn’t be surprised if you could change it to work. But that would just make it like any other fork, so I mainly stick with Fennec.

  • gon [he]
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    05 months ago

    Firefox.

    I can personalize it as much as I want and it respects my privacy, or at least any part that doesn’t can be easily turned off.

      • gon [he]
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        05 months ago

        Oh, cool! Yeah, I’ve seen that before, I think, it’s awesome.

  • Midnight Wolf
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    05 months ago

    Librewolf. Firefox as a backup. Chrome as a backup-backup.

    IronFox. Vanadium as a backup.

    I’m up to my neck in privacy settings, systems, extensions, etc. LW does everything I need, with the exception of a couple different sites (glares at cpanel). I have been rocking it for a couple years now. IronFox is a fork of Mull, which is now defunct. Vanadium comes with GrapheneOS and cannot be removed, so it gets the backseat treatment (it’s fine - but I need my extensions and deep settings, yeah yeah it’s supposed to be more secure but safer isn’t necessarily also more private).

    Plus, LW is a fucking wolf browser. Hello. Wolves are #1, and this statement is absolutely not biased because I have a hybrid wolf fursona. Absolutely not. 0%.

    (maybe like 5% okay wolves are awesome)

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      lol! I just grabbed librewolf-bin after talking about it here (actually, I’ve almost got it. I lost track and forgot to accept the yay prompts, lol).

      Have you looked into creating your own local hosted homepage dashboard for tracking your servers and such? Its something I’m very interested in doing, but I need to learn from the ground up. There’s so many AI answers now, much of it incorrect, that its getting more difficult to learn things on my own these days.

      • Midnight Wolf
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        I use uh, oh what’s it called, Homearr? Yeah, that’s the one. It makes it easy for me to access services when I can’t remember the names (see above lol). It’s only for server… services (at least for my setup), I haven’t really personalized it. I use a tab group extension (name escapes me) and that way I have general stuff, local server, vps, etc etc and that helps keep thing from going nuclear, but I still have a lot of tabs - last time I checked I was nearing 1k. That’s with FreshRSS and Linkding, in an attempt to curb the tab madness…

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
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    Firefox.

    Because it’s not Chromium based so it’s not subject to any changes to the underlying code that might do something stupid like stop ad blockers from working.

    I had been using FireFox since it’s launch. The only reason I ever switch to Chrome originally was because, at the time, Firefox was crashing like every 10 minutes after an update it had. Chrome ended up being faster and, at that time, used less resources.

    Switched back the moment news about Manifest V3 started being reported on a few years back.

    • EyedustOP
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      That’s a big one for me. It’s why I mainly use Firefox forks. I’m feeling pretty anti-Google these days, anyway. Though there is a stripped down Chromium browser that’s supposed to be de-Googled and I think still allows ad blockers. I think, I’m not 100% sure. It’s just simply called Chromium. I used to run it on my Pi4, because it took the least amount of resources and was the smoothest experience.

      • @otacon239@lemmy.world
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        Chromium is just the open-source component of the Chrome browser, so it will still come with any code changes that Chrome make to break ad blocking and so on.

        You mention right at the top that there were no issues with FF. It might not be exciting, but it doesn’t prevent ad blockers or anything else for that matter. There’s a reason why it’s the first browser I recommend to anyone for anything.

        • EyedustOP
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          05 months ago

          No, I agree. I’ve had 0 problems with it and it will be my first recommendations to newer users, as well. I always tell people to be careful with extensions though, as Mozilla states that they do not review every extension and you could add something nefarious.

          I mean, that could be the same for Chrome, but it’s been so long since I’ve touched that browser that I don’t even know what it looks like anymore, let alone what their addon policy is.

  • @SethranKada@lemmy.ca
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    Librewolf. It does everything i need, and nothing i don’t. It doesn’t have bloatware or adware, and it respects my privacy. That’s all I care about, besides that it can still do everything I need a browser to do.

    • EyedustOP
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      05 months ago

      I need to try Librewolf. I’ve seen the praises it gets here on Lemmy. I’ve been holding off, because I feel like Floorp is very similar. I may try Firedragon as well, but I feel like it may be rather bloated as far as FF forks go.

      • @klu9@lemmy.ca
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        05 months ago

        IIRC, Firedragon is Floorp with the best of Librewolf.

        I was using it until a couple of months ago, when an update not only wiped all my open pages but also all the workspaces I’d created.

        • EyedustOP
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          Ohhhh, okay. That would give me more of an incentive to try it. I always just assumed it was Garuda’s browser to match its KDE Sweet theme aesthetic. Excuse me while I go download a fifth browser for this PC.

    • NeedyPlatter
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      05 months ago

      I’ve tried a good amount of Firefox forks and Librewolf is hands down my fav. God tier browser imo