• @TheBigBrother@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Bitcoin it’s nothing else than the way the west it’s fighting against the Chinese economy, it’s just making money anonymously where there is no money. Better than using the classic central bank method.

    • @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      015 days ago

      This is somewhat of a conspiracy theory but I’m surprised it’s not a more popular conspiracy theory. I’ve always had the suspicion that crypto is an op by cia/nsa or like japan or somebody.

  • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    015 days ago

    Everybody sell. You know how you can’t really tell when a stock is going to tank? Well, this time it’s like we’re doing economics with training wheels. You won’t get hurt, and you can see what’s coming. You just gotta sell now before the floor drops out.

  • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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    015 days ago

    I’m quite frankly glad to see this, because that means that the United States will have no ability to ban it, what with the ETFs and everything, and as long as you can buy any kind of crypto at all, you can buy Monero. Also, the launch of decentralized peer-to-peer exchanges is helping to give the middle finger to the government.

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      015 days ago

      …I’m so out of the loop here. I want to say I disagree with you, because it sounds insane, but I don’t know enough about the subject matter to dispute it. What the hell is Monero?

      • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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        015 days ago

        Monero is cash. You cannot see who sent Monero to who or how much they sent. It’s completely private. The government has a half a million dollar bounty out for anybody who can break it and it’s been out for years because nobody has been able to do so.

        • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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          015 days ago

          I don’t know. Personally, I haven’t dealt any drugs using it. But I have purchased groceries for the last year and a half with it. You have a right to be private with your money. Would you want absolutely everybody knowing everything you spend your money on and when you spent it? Forever? Personally, I don’t.

          • TheLowestStone
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            015 days ago

            “Fake money for drug dealers” is just a general crypto joke from a meme I saw here on lemmy. It just so happens that the flavor of fake money that you fell in love with actually is for drug dealers.

            You’ve got me curious now though. It’s apparently important to you to keep the details of your grocery purchase completely private and that’s totally fine if it makes you happy. I don’t need to understand it to accept it. What I want to know is how far do you go to protect that privacy? Do you give Instacart your neighbor’s address? Do you use a fake name?

            • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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              I haven’t gone that far. It’s mainly online privacy I care most about, and financial privacy. I mean… I use lemmy, mastodon, proton, degoogled my devices, run linux, DNS level ad/tracker/malware blockers, use Monero, Signal, SimpleX, have no fb, x, insta, tiktok, etc.

              As for the whole fake money thing, anything can be money. It’s just what people choose to call money. And since I can use it to buy groceries, and pay my phone bill, and pay my insurance, and buy products I want, it is money. You know the money most used to purchase drugs is the US dollar?

              • TheLowestStone
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                015 days ago

                Lol, yes I do know that. I’ve spent quite a few US dollars on drugs myself.

                I really was just joking. I’m not judgemental about privacy, drugs, or most things really. I also realize that ALL money is fake money that only has value because we have agreed that it does. If the topic had been short term rentals instead of crypto, I’d have made an “illegal hotel chain” joke instead.

                Also, If I offended you I’m sorry. I hope you have a good night (or day if you live far away from me).

                • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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                  015 days ago

                  Sorry, I might have come off a bit harsher at the end of that last message than I meant to. I get it so often here because so many people want to just bash crypto without ever thinking about any good sides about it.

            • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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              015 days ago

              Can I send an envelope full of cash to Amazon to buy a product? Cash is great for the physical medium if you are in person face to face and can exchange a physical commodity but when you need to exchange value over the internet then cash isn’t a real option

                • @shortwavesurfer@monero.town
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                  015 days ago

                  I buy groceries with Instacart and have them delivered. It saves me money since I’m not walking through the store and seeing all those items I can just get what I need and so I’ve done it that way for years

        • @magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org
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          015 days ago

          Yet another fake currency for drug dealers.

          Well yeah you don’t wanna make illegal online transactions with a fake currency the government owns.

          Plus that ones got an encrypted ledger so its got a real use case there.

          That being said if you got a problem with drug dealers, where the fuck do you get your drugs?

  • @Not_mikey@slrpnk.net
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    015 days ago

    Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday. “Biden’s hatred of Bitcoin only helps China, Russia, and the Radical Communist Left. We want all the remaining Bitcoin to be MADE IN THE USA!!! It will help us be ENERGY DOMINANT!!!”

    Didn’t COMMUNIST China ban it mostly because it was putting strain on their grid? Not sure how wasting states worth of electricity to fuel a glorified ponzi scheme is going to help with energy dominance but who am I to question the self-proclaimed genius.

    • @technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yeah it’s telling that this grifter is talking about Bitcoin when most other cryptos are massively more efficient. Even within crypto bitcoin is an obsolete technology. This is more for the like coal sector than crypto.

    • @CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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      014 days ago

      Yes, some of the biggest crypto providers are de facto chinese. They trade big time, always have. When techno idealists in the west were still discussing Bitcoin as a free currency over a decade ago, china already ran gigantic crypto miner farms and saw it only as a speculative asset. They knew from the very first day it‘s not about using crypto, but making money trading and holding it.

    • Redex
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      I just… I… what goes through this man’s head? Why is literally every sentence he spews completed bullshit? And why do so many people fall for it?

  • @the_doktor@lemmy.zip
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    015 days ago

    A criminal saying that a laughable scam that is mostly used for criminal activity is good? Who would have thought? Oh right, everyone.

    • Flying SquidOP
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      015 days ago

      He was anti-Bitcoin until recently though. Now suddenly he’s all-in on it. Obviously something major has changed. One person speculated that this is to appeal to libertarians. I’m suggesting that along with that, the Saudis, who are in tight with Trump, just announced that they are abandoning the petrodollar and are considering trading in Bitcoin.

      • @uienia@lemmy.world
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        014 days ago

        Way too overthinking it for Trump. Some criminal puppeteer just paid him a lot of funds in bitcoin.

  • @scarabic@lemmy.world
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    015 days ago

    He realized that if you have a large number of people on remote control, you can do pretty well with Ponzi schemes.

  • @Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    015 days ago

    there was a time when conspiracy loons would fearmonger about “digital currency” and “cashless society” and yet here we are…

    • @Toribor@corndog.social
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      015 days ago

      They still are.

      Bitcoin mining may be our last line of defense against a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency],” Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday

      Don’t use the imaginary digital currency made by the deep state. Use this specific digital currency that I have a huge financial interest in!

  • @tal@lemmy.today
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    “Bitcoin mining may be our last line of defense against a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency],” Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday. “Biden’s hatred of Bitcoin only helps China, Russia, and the Radical Communist Left. We want all the remaining Bitcoin to be MADE IN THE USA!!! It will help us be ENERGY DOMINANT!!!”

    I love using social media, but I sure miss the politics of the pre-social-media era. The craziness levels were considerably lower.

    • @fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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      014 days ago

      Wait so the play is to make us push bitcoin BECAUSE its a huge energy hog to float fossil fuels prices UP?

      Honestly wtf kind of policy is this?

      Like at least white nationalist pull in 2016 was pretty clear cut, but who the hell is that even for? Like what chud libertarian wants to see the government artificial increase energy prices?

    • @crazyCat@sh.itjust.works
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      015 days ago

      I agree with you, but then I just thought of the political eras that gave us Nazis, Stalin and the gulags, Mao and the Cultural Revolution and thought hmm politics could be crazy before, also.

  • @treadful@lemmy.zip
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    015 days ago

    “Bitcoin mining may be our last line of defense against a CBDC [Central Bank Digital Currency],” Trump said in a Truth Social post Tuesday.

    lol, no shot he wrote this.