Seriousely how many of you do that? Sincearly a european

  • @SaneMartigan@aussie.zone
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    I was fighting a cold recently so used the microwave to heat the lemon juice / honey / gin mixture I was self medicating with.

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      010 days ago

      Lemon juice, honey, and also gin?!? Genius! Any water, or just that?

      We ran out of JD Honey - trump tax and Canadian embargo - and I was gonna add a local bourbonesque booze … but I never even thought of a gin base.

      • @SaneMartigan@aussie.zone
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        Gin is just what I had available. It’s a hot toddy, normally made with whiskey but I’m not a big fan of wood cask spirits. I put it in a thermos to take to a funeral. It was about a 3:2:1 gin:lemon:honey mix. It was sippable but sweet like cordial from the honey. I was putting it in hot water.

  • Libb
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    011 days ago

    We don’t. Our simple kettle with its whistle is working great, despite its age. And its much nicer to look at than a microwave too ;)

  • @jordanlund@lemmy.world
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    011 days ago

    I used to microwave water for all sorts of things before getting an induction stovetop.

    Seriously, it goes from tap water to boiling in 2 minutes. It’s a game changer.

      • palordrolap
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        My kettle boils a mug’s worth of water in less than a minute, and it takes me longer than that for even a brief toilet visit and washing of hands. I have learned not to switch the kettle on until I get back from the bathroom, otherwise I’ll be boiling the water twice.

        Important factors: 1) Britain has 230V mains power so electric kettles can boil water incredibly quickly, 2) The stereotype about Brits and tea is true in my case. I get through three to six mugs of the stuff per day. 3) Hot tea must be made with boiling water. Power isn’t cheap and re-boiling the water adds up over time.

        • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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          Mine takes longer, but I never brew a single mug. I brew a full pot and I only reason I limit myself to that is because of the size of my kettle.

    • Victor
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      Induction hobs I think are still less efficient than an electric kettle, right? Correct me if I’m wrong. (I have both but I don’t have the know-how to measure the effect of either. Just what I’ve heard.)

      • @Allero@lemmy.today
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        Right. The hob need to heat up entire surface of your cookware, and kettle transfers heat directly from the element below to water - only then some of that heat is dissipated.

      • Sidyctism II.
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        afaik electric kettles are the most efficient machines around. something like 95% efficiency

        • @Allero@lemmy.today
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          Every thermal machine is technically ~100% efficient at producing heat, but then how much heat is spent usefully is another metric, depending on materials used (and subsequent thermal dissipation), loss in cables, etc.

      • @Allero@lemmy.today
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        Right. The hob needs to heat up entire surface of your cookware, and kettle transfers heat directly from the element below to water - only then some of that heat is dissipated.

          • @Allero@lemmy.today
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            Induction directly heats the bottom of the cookware (as opposed to regular hop heating the surface which then heats the bottom of the cookware), and from that bottom the heat is transferred through the entire volume of your utensils. And then food is heated off that.

      • slazer2au
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        011 days ago

        It would be interesting to test. quick, someone poke Technology Connections.

      • @jordanlund@lemmy.world
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        If you have both, and a timer on your phone, should be easy enough to check. Put the same measured amount of water in both and see how long it takes to boil.

        • Victor
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          Yeah I meant efficiency, not effectiveness. Like power consumption vs time.

        • @PetteriPano@lemmy.world
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          Amperage determines how much current something gets.

          Voltage times amperage determines the power something draws.

          More current needs thicker wires, while higher voltage does not.

        • Power is what matters, and power (in watts) = current (in amps) times voltage (in volts). US residential power outlets are 110V and typically cap at 15A, for a power output max of 1650W. But it’s also pretty common to have 20A outlets in kitchens, which would max out at 2200W. Still, there aren’t a lot of 2000W kettles in the US, and it’s pretty standard for the ones you’d buy in a store to only draw about 1500W.

          Meanwhile, in the UK, the standard outlet is 230V, rated for up to 13A, for about 3000W. And culturally, in terms of consumer expectations in the UK, the kettles are generally designed to max that out to use the full capacity of that outlet.

          So on average, the typical US kettle is only about half as powerful as the typical UK kettle. It’s a combination of the US electrical norms and the cultural/consumer expectations, because it is entirely possible to have a 2200W kettle on a pretty standard kitchen circuit in the US.

  • @Ziggurat@jlai.lu
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    I did it when having no kettle,

    Main problem is that you don’t have a good temperature control, sometimes, you get mid-walm water, sometimes you get boiling water.

    Even worse, you have this physical phenomena where water is above 100 degree but doesn’t boil, and as soon you move-it it starts boiling. At best it’s impressive but it can move into burn quickly.

      • Björn Tantau
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        Apparently you can do it by turning off the microwave as soon as it starts boiling, turning it on again and repeating until everything boils at the same time and explodes.

      • Rikudou_Sage
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        The water continues to heat ~1 minute after microwaving stops, so I guess it could happen if you take it out very close to the boiling point.

          • @seralth@lemmy.world
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            010 days ago

            Yeah, his ass. If you stop adding energy then it stops getting hotter.

            Food keeps cooking cause the water in the food is hot and that keeps the food cooking for a bit.

            But it doesn’t KEEP getting hotter.

      • @Ziggurat@jlai.lu
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        Yes it already happened a couple of time. It starts boiling either when pulling-out or when putting the tea inside.

    • @garbagebagel@lemmy.world
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      Yeah I grew up without a kettle and just lived with shitty badly heated water. Got myself a kettle after moving out and improved my tea experience greatly.

      I got my parents a kettle though because my mom, especially, drinks about 10 cups of hot water a day, but she hates the kettle and won’t use it. I do not understand.

  • Wugmeister
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    09 days ago

    I am an American. I got a stovetop kettle to boil water for my tea. My fiancée hates it and refuses to use it. My friends think it is weird that I don’t just use the microwave like a normal person.

  • @leadore@lemmy.world
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    I use an electric kettle but remember that in the US outlets are 120V, so they take a lot longer to heat water than in countries with 240.

    So the microwave isn’t much less efficient than the electric kettle, mainly because some of the energy is heating the mug/container. The least efficient is a stovetop kettle on an electric stove.

    But I’m curious, why are Europeans so horrified by the idea of heating water in the microwave? Is it related to power consumption, or is there some other reason?

    • Goldholz OP
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      Why would you? Have some class!

      And if you need such a small amount of warm water to cook. Then take warm water from your tap.

      For everything else? Use a kettle!

      • @leadore@lemmy.world
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        Oh, now I see! You don’t understand that a microwave can boil water, you think it can only warm it up a little. Thank you for clearing up my confusion.

        Have some class!

        Whenever I hear Europeans accuse Americans of being arrogant, I can only laugh. Feeling superior about something like how you boil water is hilarious.

  • In the US I bought an electric kettle because I got tired of using the stove. I don’t understand people who use the microwave it just feels wrong.

  • LostWanderer
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    I’ve always had a stove top kettle, there was no reason to boil water in the microwave for tea. Up until a few years ago, I did not have a microwave. I prefer the even temperature of water boiled in a kettle.

  • @fodor@lemmy.zip
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    Electric kettles are a waste of space for many people. Limited use, fills up the counter. So then either you use the store or the microwave. We both know which one is faster.

      • @Masamune@lemmy.world
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        08 days ago

        Not by choice, but unfortunately that is my only option. cries in wallet

        What is the difference on environmetal impact for running a gas burner for 5 minutes vs. running an electric microwave for 30 seconds?

  • Venicone
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    My wife is a purist from the south of England with several tea brewing options. If I boiled water in the microwave I’d be at real risk of divorce

    • @Landless2029@lemmy.world
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      I used to do house calls a decade ago for IT work. Often customers offered me beverages.

      Had a European who worked at the UN for decades make me tea. Blew my socks off. I’ve never enjoyed tea, but it seems like we just don’t know how to make it!

      … The next month I was offered tea by a American. I wasn’t expecting it being made by a pro, but let him try.

      He put “hot” tap water into a cup and tossed a teabag in.
      I fake drank it.

    • @MintyFresh@lemmy.world
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      As a guy who recently got into tea, any recommendations? I got a box of Yorkshire gold, it’s pretty good, but almost tastes a little… chalky? Malty I suppose is the word. It’s good, I’m not complaining, but would be interested to hear recs from someone who knows what’s what

      • @Nefara@lemmy.world
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        I’ve been on a real chai kick and got the biggest available size of this tea a month or so ago and I’m already nearly through it. I love it with milk and sugar, it has some caffeine and a spicy complexity that gets me going in the mornings. It’s amazing cold too, if I don’t finish the pot before it goes lukewarm I’ll put in a glass bottle in the fridge for later.

        Oh and buy loose leaf tea. Even cellulose and paper teabags are apparently riddled with micro plastics.

        • @MintyFresh@lemmy.world
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          Ya, I need to get off the bags. I had no idea about the micro plastics. I’m running by my kitchen store here in the next few days and buying a basket strainer.

          How do you brew yours? I’ve also seen the little baskets on a string. It seems like that could work. Idk the basket seems like the most straight forward easiest thing to do.

          I’m not sure how I feel about the flavors, I always hated them in coffee, I’m hesitant to order flavored tea.

          • @Nefara@lemmy.world
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            The latching baskets, the little spring spoons, cages, muslin bags, I’ve tried them all and absolutely nothing is as convenient or easy as just getting a pot with an inset stainless steel infuser. The infuser just fits around the inside of the tea pot rim underneath the lid, and when my tea is ready I can dump used tea leaves right in the compost bin with a good tap or two, rinse it and it’s ready for another pot. Highly recommend it, don’t mess with anything more complicated.

      • @Wahots@pawb.social
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        I always recommend this site: https://theteahouseltd.com/

        We’ve visited them in person and their tea was so fantastic that even non-tea people loved it. They ship worldwide. I tend to order in bulk these years.

        Only one tea has ever come close, and it was a small Asian restaurant out of Vancouver, BC. This store has dozens of amazing varieties.