I live in an affluent part of South Carolina. It’s become completely overrun with Trump assholes and degenerates. I don’t know how much longer I can take it. Where can we go?
I don’t want the bitter cold of the northeast or Chicago. I don’t want coastal California, it’s insufferable. What are my options? Why can’t we just be fucking normal?!
45 minutes outside of Portland, OR in any direction will get you somewhere just as rural as the place you left in SC, only with better weather and sane laws.
Accurate, but be careful because once you go 2+ hours outside of Portland, OR you will likely find yourself once again among cognitively challenged folks…
Heck, 10 minutes past Portland city limits and it’s Dodge Rams and Trump flags.
Definitely don’t keep going into Idaho
Maryland
There hasn’t been “bitter cold” in the northeast for a decade. Climate change is a bitch. We barely get snow anymore - 2015 was a banger, but it’s been dustings since.
Idk it was -15 in 2020 and 2021 and in subzero in 22 and 23 where I live in IL.
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Ok so where in the northeast is not batshit? Rural PA is the same as here. Same with upstate NY or NH. NYC? No way. Maybe Delaware or something?
Philly suburbs!
You really can’t get bluer than mass ri conn and vt
Southern nh and southern me are basically Boston suburbs. As you go north it gets more red. But not like sc (I have family in sc and outside of the blue cities - ya they are pretty maga stupid). They are more “leave me alone red” as opposed to “my pastor said abortion is bad and I like to make fun of the gays”
I mean there’s maga idiots everywhere-but honestly things might even tip a little too blue in southern New England.
And education is pretty good too.
Can’t help but think you’re overlooking Cleveland. Where we have billboards that have eyebrows. You KNOW what he does! We have romanburger FEED THE HUNGER!!! We’ll talk about how Melt and Barrio lost their way, and how the George family are pieces of shit. Mark from Norton furnature is here for you! Seriously! Now, if you can’t get credit here, you can’t get credit anywhere! Now enjoy this unrequested acid trip, as shit stops making sense, and Gumby chases a mad scientist with scissors through a missmash of full size random characters that sometimes hang your coat for you, and sometimes run you out the store chasing you with hedgeclippers. Where we used to all be in on the joke of the Cleveland tourism videos, but now loathe them as they’ve been taken over by outsiders as a means to mock us.
We also race hot dogs at the baseball stadium, and you can pick your favorite based on condiment. My pick is ketchup, because he’s awesome. Kids love mustard because he “plays by the ruuuules”, and nobody picks onion, because…well, she knows what she did. She’s a disgrace to the city, and the less spoken about the great hobo vehicular manslaughter of '88 said the better.
And so now, I can put either an Indians hat on your head, or a Guardians hat on your head. Seeing as you have no personal emotional ties to the 1995, 1997, and to a smaller extent 2016 Indians, I assume you have no personal attatchment to chief wahoo, so it’s perfectly fine to wear the Guardians stuff. Just don’t be surprised that people 40+ will still wear the old chief wahoo gear. It’s not a sign of racism to us. It’s a tribute to the days of Jim Thome, and Manny Rameriez, and Carlos Baerga, and Kenny Lofton, and Albert Belle, and (as much as it sucks to know how he turned out) Omar Vizquel. We’ll still shit on Jośe Mesa, but really it wasn’t as much his fault as people like to say. Now, regarding Slider, we don’t know what the hell he is either. No one does. It’s best not to think about it. It’s also best not to think about the time Slider was dancing on top of the dugout, and slid knees first off the side and broke his leg. I say it’s best not to think about because it’s really funny, and you’ll laugh for too long of a time.
We also have Cleveland signs, all over the city. By this, I mean just statue like letters, all in white, that are styled the same way, and they say “Cleveland”. Just in case you forget where you are.
Then there’s Big Chuck, and Little Jon. No, not the rapper, but he does have as much bling as a rapper. He own a jewelry shop, but also, he’s like 4’5. Despite his name, he’s not really known for having prostitutes.
And people will come up to you on the street, and start talking to you. You’ve never met these people, but they’ll come up to you like “Hey man, you see the game last night? Shiiiiit, Rameriez knocked out Tim Andersons punk ass!” while you’re like “Uhhhhhh, sure. I’m just trying to carry this refridgerator home.” And then he’ll offer to help. You think I’m joking, but I’m using this as a real life example of what happened to me.
And our weather can best be described as “FUCK YOU!!!”. Last week it was roughly 100 degrees, and the past few days it’s been in the 70s. We havent had much snow since covid. Except for that one week last year near christmas where it said “FUCK YOU! NEGATIVE 20 DEGREES AND 3 FEET OF SNOW OVERNIGHT!!!” and we haven’t seen snow since.
So come to Cleveland. We have beer.
You’ve sold me
That was a wild ride! I used to stay up with my Dad and watch Big Chuck and Little John, and definitely heard Mark’s voice when I read that bit.
SC doesn’t have any blue bubbles? I’m in Texas and i only know about 5 people that i think are probably trumpsters.
Only blue bubble I know of is Charleston? But I promise you the white people there aren’t blue voters.
Closest I have heard of is Greenville, and its surrounding area is definitely red.
This NBC link on the 2020 presidential election is somewhat surprising, though. Maybe the US Senate results, as they narrow that potential blue bubble down to either Richland county or tiny Allendale.
Portland or Seattle would for those criteria well as long as you don’t mind rain. Both very progressive cities, weather is generally mild (rarely above 85, rarely below 30, usually less than 2 weeks a year with snow).
Was going to suggest this. Portland is rough to move to right now, it’s very popular, so costs have been climbing pretty fast. But there are some decent suburbs, Milwaukie, Tigard, Beaverton, Vancouver.
Costs is the key thing. People know it’s nice, so people move here, and costs go up. Expect 2000/month rents, and that’s the low side in some areas
And though it’s nice, we still have our Trump bubbles around town, and then pretty much everything outside of the metro area.
Also am the homeless camps everywhere.
I was just thinking yesterday how the rest of the country’s conservatives look at Seattle as a burning liberal hellscape, but we actually have a lot of conservatives here. What do the conservatives here think when fox news says that capital hill is still under riots?
Durham or chapel Hill? We got lots of libs over here.
Charlotte? Raleigh? DC?
I’m in Tampa and it’s a real mix here, but oof housing cost is out of control.
If you don’t like to be in a city, you will probably be in a backwards place, that’s just how the US works. But lots of mid sized cities are moderate politically.
North Carolina is gerrymandered to hell.
Florida too. Even with the influx of racist northerners, it’s mixed politically here, mixed in every way imaginable actually but you’d never know it looking at the legislature.
Yeah we live across the border from Charlotte. The area would be really nice if it could stop stepping on its own dick so much. The public schools are among the top in the nation (believe it or not) but a maga bitch who’s hell-bent on destroying the system just won. The sheriff who won tonight was at Jan 6 and freely admits it. It might be time to get out of here.
First of all congrats on realizing the insanity around you. Second of all there’s probably a lot more moderate liberals in your area than you realize because they’re smart enough to shut the fuck up around the insane maga posse. Be the change you want to see in the world. Stand up for your beliefs. And if you do actually decide to jump ship, just remember there are other parts of California besides the coast…
Northern New Mexico?
I’m not from the US, so I don’t know how accurate this is, and I also don’t know if this thing has ever been updated (I found it a long time ago), but there’s this tool that might help with deciding: https://www.whereshouldilive.co/
Apparently I should live in Denver - no idea if that’s actually good though.
What I need is one of these for places worldwide…
It said I should live in San Francisco which is interesting because I already do live there.
Well, should you live there?
I wish there were more cities in America with public transit and lots of bars. Or else I would move.
NYC public transit and nightlife is amazing. It’s pretty dirty once you leave the financial district though. Unfortunately I’ve heard that SF is pretty dirty these days too. Is that true? It used to be my most favorite city in the world, but I haven’t been back in 15+ years.
I am both surprised and not that I got Denver, CO. I’ve been told before by someone that they initially thought I was from there the first time we met.
That seems like an overly tedious way of entering your preferences. Why can’t I just rank a handful of factors (cheap housing, beaches, climate, politics, diversity) and give them some weight?
You could even make the ranking of the factors in the current style (“snowy winters are [much] more important than beaches”). That would reduce the cognitive load of comparing 3 vs 3 properties many times in a row.
You can do just that. Before you begin the quiz, there’s a link to skip the quiz and directly enter your preferences.
Amazing, I’ve missed that 🤦
If options were no object, Pacific Northwest is beautiful and temperate
Stay and run for office. Even under a maga banner…if anything shown we can change this country it’s voting. Also both parties shown that you can change parties once in office. So run win then go full blown progressive while in office.
Come to Georgia. It’s close. We’re a swing state now. We could use your vote.
Georgia keeps impressing me with how much green tech (solar, batteries, etc) are being built out of there too!
Hey, Chicago food is way better and the child weather kills all the bugs every year. Don’t be a wimp, move north. Or what your kids will have to anyway thanks to climate change. Oh yeah, we’ve never had a hurricane up here.
Because Putin & Murdoch hate democracy & know new age warfare: troll social media, market fake news.
With a tiny troll army: Created a party of snowflakes that calls everybody else snowflakes.
Streaming endless propaganda (Fake News: Fox, Alex Jones etc)
Hello neighbor! NC will welcome you. It’s purple here. Rural areas are not so great but closer to the bigger cities (Charlotte, Raleigh, Asheville, Greensboro/Winston) are nice.
Sorry about your sanity.
Came here to say Asheville as well