What’s your take? I’m not sure if I know of an historic case of it like IDK maybe 200 or 150 years ago but nowadays I have several cases near of autistic people, so what do you think is old or new?
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(Autists perspective)
It’s not new at all, the term has been around decades and itself has been around literally forever. It’s a different brain development. There are many historical persons which are thought or know to have been autists (e. G. Einstein, Lewis Carroll, Dan Akroyd to just name a few over a longer timespan.)
It’s also not having autism (as an optional trait) but rather being Autist (as a defining foundation).
Just like, say, mutations that also always happened to certain degrees.
Feel free to ask. Also, of course, that is my personal opinion where it is not scientifically proven.
Others have answered but I feel obliged to add this.
I get the vibe that Gregor Mendal probably was autistic. Likewise, Da Vinci probably was ADHD.
“been developed”? *facepalm
Sorry about my shitty English, no es mi idioma principal pero podemos hablar perfectamente en español si gustas 😉😉
No hablo español. Perdona que me molestara el problema gramatical. No era mi intención ser ofensivo de ninguna manera.
The thing is that “been developed” strongly implies that there was an active and intentional developing (inventing) of it. Sadly there are many people that do pose such questions, purposely framed in that manner. So I suppose i reacted based on a misunderstanding of that meaning. Cheers and be well :)
Oh, now I understand — it was my fault, sorry. I’ve never been in any English-speaking country directly, so I don’t really know how words are used when you’re a native English speaker. In Spanish, we say “desarrollar” (“to develop”) not only when there’s an intentional action, but also, for example, when people get sick or have a condition — we say they “developed” the illness. In the case of autism, I understand that generally people are, let’s say, “normal” until a certain age, and it’s then that autism “develops,” so to speak.You don’t have to apologize at all.
I’m not bothered or anything. It’s just that my English is really bad sometimes, for that reason.
We used to mark all sorts of neurodivergent people as “crazy” or “witches”. But I’d also be interested in a historical source if someone has one.
The word is fairly new. But so is a shitton of other medical diagnosis like “cardiomyopathy”, “congenital heart disease”, " carditis", “aortic aneurysm”, “peripheral artery disease”, and on and on
I feel like suddenly all kids are autistic nowadays, I’ve talked about it with my parents they are 70ish and teachers and they both say in the years they worked there weren’t as many kids with some condition. I feel like maybe the human DNA has degraded too much in 2 or 3 generations.
I’ve talked about it with my parents they are 70ish and teachers and they both say in the years they worked there weren’t as many kids diagnosed with some condition
I can almost guarantee they worked with tons if autistic kids, they just didn’t know it.
Why do I say that? Because I’ve had multiple teachers tell me that my diagnosed AuDHD kid isn’t autistic. Clearly, the teachers who only see the kids while masking and yell at them when they act out would know better than a trained professional or the parents who see them when they feel safe and don’t have the energy to mask anymore.
I feel like maybe the human DNA has degraded too much in 2 or 3 generations.
Ancient Greeks notwithstanding, being non-heterosexual was considered a disease to be eliminated or cured until people finally accepted that it was a natural part of being an animal. Would you say being gay is a consequence of flawed genetics, or would you like to try phrasing that remark a bit differently?
I dont believe teachers or parents to be qualified for such diagnosis. It could be that the kids are angry, annoyed, or annoying, and people think it’s autism because they saw one once in a movie. Remember that adults are not very smart in general.
Another theory could be that those 70 years old people are boomers that have been spanked a lot and are more quiet compared to kids whose parents let them do anything (too much freedom and not enough education).
Anyway, I wouldn’t trust people to judge anything medical. My boomer parents say stupid things most of the time, yet they do it confidently and think their opinion is the only valid one.
A dumb opinion would be that not caring about others and saying stupid stuff is “autistic,” are all the boomers autists after all? See what I did?
Scientific consensus is that we now recognise and diagnose autism better than ever. Previously children that struggled in school would be labelled as troubled or slow or any number of other things. The thing about autism is that like many other things it is a spectrum, and thus previously many people with mild autism would have just cruised through and been thought of as odd or antisocial. Often when really questioned, people like your parents can think of a few people like this from their school days that might now fit the definition of autism spectrum disorder.
Also, it’s worth noting that human DNA does not and cannot degrade in any manner you suggest and that kind of reasoning has unscientific and innapropriate connotations that might associate you with very disagreeable groups.
Is gravity something new or did it exist before Newton described it?
Some quick extra bullet points as I’m short on time and much of what I want to say has already been said in this thread:
- I strongly recommend Behind the Bastards’ 2-parter on fake autism cures (huge trigger warning for child abuse though), and just as strongly Rowan Ellis’ video essay on autism representation. Both could be listened to during chores or work. https://youtube.com/watch?v=WA9B4_e6sS0
- If you’re making an intentional, good-faith effort to be kind and curious, then as an autistic person I deeply appreciate your showing up, and please don’t let the downvotes make you any less curious.
Is being left handed something old?
At least fifty years, and according to my mum at least 75 years.
No, being left handed only means you’re a satanic spawn or something evil
JFK invented it so he could destroy it
I know you’re not supposed to diagnose historical figures, but Kant is like the textbook definition of autistic. He made the rule that he would smoke one pipeful of tobacco a day, and lamented for years that he couldn’t find a bigger pipe. His moral philosophy also demonstrates the kind of rigid thinking that is characteristic of autism.
I never correlated this but it sticks. Another notable probably autistic figure was Isaac Newton
It has been around as long as humans have.
“Certainly there are people, nay, very many, who will smile at [my predicament], because they are not sensitive to noise; it is precisely these people, however, who are not sensitive to argument, thought, poetry or art, in short, to any kind of intellectual impression: a fact to be assigned to the coarse quality and strong texture of their brain tissues.” -Schopie complaining about overstimulation
we’re a kind of people that’s been around probably since forever. categorizing us the way modern psychology does is of course a more recent phenomenon. every culture since the dawn of time has had their own ways of handling and understanding variation in the species, but the variations have probably existed for as long as humans have, if not longer.
