Let’s put it this way; when Microsoft announced its plans to start adding features to Windows 10 once again, despite the operating system’s inevitable demise in October 2025, everyone expected slightly different things to see ported over from Windows 11. Sadly, the latest addition to Windows 10 is one of the most annoying changes coming from Windows 11’s Start menu.

Earlier this year, Microsoft introduced a so-called “Account Manager” for Windows 11 that appears on the screen when you click your profile picture on the Start menu. Instead of just showing you buttons for logging out, locking your device or switching profiles, it displays Microsoft 365 ads. All the actually useful buttons are now hidden behind a three-dot submenu (apparently, my 43-inch display does not have enough space to accommodate them). Now, the “Account Manager” is coming to Windows 10 users.

The change was spotted in the latest Windows 10 preview builds from the Beta and Release Preview Channels. It works in the same way as Windows 11, and it is disabled by default for now because the submenu with sign-out and lock buttons does not work.

  • @JIMMERZ@lemm.ee
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    01 year ago

    Windows 10 will be my last Windows operating system. It’s been fine and it works well enough. I’ve already started setting up a drive with Linux Mint 22 for use moving forward.

    • @northendtrooper@lemmy.ca
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      01 year ago

      In the same boat. Mint has some growing pains but for mainly web browsing I’ve been enjoying an OS that doesn’t feel like a ad billboard or a data snitch.

      • sysop
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        01 year ago

        Yess yesssss let the linux flow throughhhh youuuuuuu. Manjaro XFCE here. Play with the distros in Oracle Virtual Machines and find the right one for you. Linux desktop is seriously worth the effort. Check out Yakuake as a Quake style drop down terminal to get to hacky stuff. Learn everything about Linux. It’s fun!

      • @gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        if you don’t feel like setting up a vm, use distrosea :] free website that sets it up for you in-browser

  • spirinolas
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    01 year ago

    I’m in the EU and use Windows 10 LTSC so I mostly clear off of this bulshit. A few months ago I bought a cheap refurbished laptop to use occasionally and decided from day 1 it would be Linux Mint only since I only use it for the basics.

    A few months later and I’m surprised how far Mint came. It’s so easy to use. Customizing it was a bit harder but nothing major. And to my surprise…even games. I threw a couple of games at it and everything the computer can handle would run. I was from the time where gaming on Linux was a no-no.

    When LTSC support goes, I’ll most likely go full Linux. The only problem is the Adobe software but maybe I can fix that with a virtual machine.

    • @InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
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      01 year ago

      I tried that LTSC a couple years ago when I had a Nvidia card and I couldn’t get a driver install that would let me play the new release games.

    • Possibly linux
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      01 year ago

      With the craziness around Adobe products you might want to move away from Adobe at some point as well.

    • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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      01 year ago

      …decided from day 1 it would be Linux Mint only since I only use it for the basics

      What kind of out of the ordinary things cannot be done with it?

      I switched from Windows 3.11 and I’m still puzzled by this.

      • @Nastybutler@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        I always love when people pretend to be mystified that someone has trouble running programs on Linux when I, a non Linux user, see plenty of examples of people having trouble getting programs to run on Linux scrolling through “Everything” on Lemmy

      • noughtnaut
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        01 year ago

        The way your comment reads, you’ve been using Windows 3.11 these past decades. 😂

      • @Hackworth@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        Cannot be done with Mint? I’ve OS hopped every few years - currently running Windows 11 at work and Mint at home. I much prefer the Mint install. That said, I’m a video producer - and video production just isn’t there yet on Linux. CUDA’s a pain to get working, proprietary codecs add steps, Davinci’s linux support is more limited than it seems, KDenLive works in a pinch but lacks features, Adobe and Linux are like oil and water, there’s no equivalent for After Effects… I don’t doubt that there are workarounds for many of these issues. But the ROI’s not there yet. I’d love to see a video production focused distro that really aimed for full production suite functionality. Especially since Hackintoshes are about to get even harder to build.

        • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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          I guess that’s a valid edge case. Although I thought that some professional editing suites had been ported (not Adobe’s, obviously). Apparently it’s not the case.

    • Possibly linux
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      01 year ago

      I wouldn’t as that’s expensive and way overkill. You want a Windows version that is LTS.

        • @OR3X@lemm.ee
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          01 year ago

          IDK man, I’ve been using it exclusively on my main desktop at home and I’ve been getting along just fine with those “not particularly good” applications.

        • @Tattorack@lemmy.world
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          01 year ago

          Been using it just fine on my Desktop. Blender 3D and Krita are equally as good, and in some cases better, than the subscription based programs. Libre Office has the same functionality as MS Word, but supports more formats. Every other daily use program, such as Firefox or VLC runs just as fine on Linux as it does anywhere else. I’ve had virtually no issues running games from my Steam library, even ones that aren’t officially supported.

        • @SplashJackson@lemmy.ca
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          I was so startled to find LibreOffice Calc, the Excel-alike, had completely different keyboard shortcuts than Excel, completely messing with my muscle memory every. Single. Time. How are businesses supposed to adapt when they need to factor in the time loss for every Excel-using employee to learn the arbitrary new control scheme?

  • @accideath@lemmy.world
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    01 year ago

    If they can’t bring the people to Win 11, they bring Win 11 to the people instead?

    Just install Linux, it’s not that hard. Or at least get a Mac or a Chromebook…

    • @doingthestuff@lemmy.world
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      01 year ago

      I have been installing Linux on a number of my work PCs that I manage. Most of them are pretty straightforward, office products, printing, web, basic video player. But my personal PCs have so many different programs installed for different niche uses that it’s been a massive roadblock to me switching over. I know it’s coming because I’m not moving to Windows 11 even though my PC is compatible in theory. But man is it going to take me a lot of time to figure out all of the different screen capture, video editing, audio extraction and editing, disc imaging, photo editing etc. I know I can figure it out, but it’s about the time. I have a huge steam library too,but most of that should work.

      Any of you playing Fallout London on Linux?

      • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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        Was in the same place, got FOSS soft for almost everything so now I run Mint on my main PC and on my laptop too, with a little 100€ used think centre running photoshop (I’m starting to figure out krita/gimp but pixel editing is a bummer there IMO) and 3dsmax for when I need them.

        Edit: no internet connection for that box ofc.

      • @IAmNotACat@lemmy.world
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        You can mount and sync your OneDrive files with rclone, which I think is much nicer than OneDrive, but maybe not easy to set up if you’re not comfortable with command line interfaces.

      • @accideath@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        Yea, it’s definitely not for everyone yet. But the average user (who needs a browser, a file manager and maybe an office suite) has no reason to stay on windows besides the convenience of being installed already.

      • @acid_falcon@lemmy.world
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        01 year ago

        You know that you dont have to pay for a Windows license right? You can permanently activate it (and any version of office) with a script. I found some article a while ago talking about it, some official Microsoft tech support used it because they were frustrated with Windows, so it’s legit

        https://massgrave.dev/

        I do computer repair/tech support for just a small business. I haven’t used Windows on a a personal machine in a looong time, but that script helps me when I get stuck at work

    • thermal_shock
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      01 year ago

      that’s what’s kicking me,why would a professional license used primarily for business need ANY kind of advertisement/popup/nag from their OS? fuck off Microsoft

      • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        01 year ago

        Microsoft don’t hold back from the ads and crapware in the Pro versions of Windows. The Enterprise versions tend to be where you get some control over it.

        • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼
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          01 year ago
          (quick disclaimer: I've been using Linux for over 20 years)

          I use Gentoo because I’m a power user and like to customize my system. I don’t mind having to compile software from source, and I actually appreciate the benefits I get from it. I use a custom kernel, which I probably recompile once a week because I make changes all the time. I also appreciate the fact that Gentoo doesn’t force me to use any particular piece of software, e.g. systemd or sudo. I replaced both, I use OpenRC as my init and doas instead of sudo.

          For new users I would recommend something simple like Linux Mint, Pop!_OS or Zorin OS. EndeavourOS is great for intermediate users, and it offers a great introduction into the world of Arch Linux. Fedora and Fedora Atomic, as well as derivatives like Universal Blue are really interesting as well.

          • @iterable@sh.itjust.works
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            01 year ago

            No Arch? I game on linux as much as possible and went with same that Valve did for SteamOS. Work I use Windows 10 Pro and laptop FreeBSD.

            • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼
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              SteamOS has the big advantage that it’s immutable. I have used Arch many times and generally like it, but I recently had a few Arch installations break repeatedly for no reason, and I don’t want to deal with that. So I went back to Gentoo, which has always been extremely stable for me. But I like Arch, and one of the distros ai recommend is EndeavourOS, which is Arch-based. But it’s better for users with some intermediate Linux knowledge, because it’s pretty easy to fuck up on Arch.

              FreeBSD is nice! I have an old laptop that I keep around so I can play with FreeBSD. I also used to run OpenBSD on the desktop for a few years, but I had another machine running Linux because I couldn’t do everything on BSD. But it was a really nice experience, and I still use OpenBSD on servers.

  • @PhAzE@lemmy.ca
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    01 year ago

    If they advertise, then the OS needs to be free. I’m not paying for an OS that profits off me too.

    • @viking@infosec.pub
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      01 year ago

      I don’t recall ever paying for Windows, so there’s that. Once in a while I had a genuine license that came bundled with something, but most of the time, I don’t.

      • @SoGrumpy@lemmy.ml
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        01 year ago

        Aside from pirating, if you got Windows with a new pc/laptop, then you paid for Windows in the price of the device.

        • @viking@infosec.pub
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          01 year ago

          I always go for customized builds without OS. Those instances where I had a license were either work computers or licenses I got through uni.

  • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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    01 year ago

    IS THE ENTIRE FUCKING ECONOMY BASED ON ADS??? WHO THE FUCK IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE SHITTY ADS??? WHO EVER YOU ARE, GET FUCKED WITH YOUR PRODUCT!

  • 21Cabbage
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    01 year ago

    See and my friends give me shit for running KDE, soon they’ll have to click past a Viagra ad to do so.

  • circuitfarmer
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    01 year ago

    Buy an expensive license

    Install the software on hardware you own

    Company puts ads on it that weren’t there when you bought the license

    2024 is wild. Run Linux.

    • Scratch
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      I jumped ship to PopOS a few months back.

      There are some issues, like Bluetooth not starting without some terminal commands, I think I have to wipe or otherwise mess around with my 1TB NTFS storage drive to mount it and stuff like that.

      But all the games I’ve tried to play work fine.

      CPU: 3700x GPU: 4090

      • circuitfarmer
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        01 year ago

        PopOS is pretty great. There is a polish to it that I haven’t seen in some other distros. Which is why it remains on my main gaming rig even though I have considered distro hopping for a while now.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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      It’s kinda like AAA game companies waiting for a couple of weeks after a title’s release (and all the reviews are done) before rolling out the micro-transaction market (and the corresponding game-balance adjustments).

      Funny how when Windows XP had dial-in activation we warned that this would drift over to games if we tolerated it, and then it did.

      • circuitfarmer
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        01 year ago

        100%. Every time consumers tolerate something, it will get worse. On the other hand, it seems so simple to tell people “just don’t buy a product that does X”, but in practice, it’s almost impossible to get people to stop giving these companies money.

        • @grue@lemmy.world
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          01 year ago

          but in practice, it’s almost impossible to get people to stop giving these companies money.

          This is why consumer-protection regulations are necessary.

        • @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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          People will yell, gnash their teeth, and greivously complain about terrible things and issues.

          but they, for the overwhelming majority of them, will refuse to ever give up their precious shiny and make a change, and will eagerly throw out money at every opportunity for it. If not directly at buying them, then at buying secondary related items, or by watching ads.