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If only they explained their reasoning somewhere… all these headlines are so inconsiderate.
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What part of the opening rationale was incomprehensible?
“With current diving at 150 to 200 meters, you can only get 10 minutes of work completed, followed by 6 hours of decompression. With our underwater habitats we’ll be able to do seven years’ worth of work in 30 days with shorter decompression time. More than 90 percent of the ocean’s biodiversity lives within 200 meters’ depth and at the shorelines, and we only know about 20 percent of it.”
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Humans are the ones tooling and retooling these units for specific purposes, which can be done far more efficiently in situ in an underwater habitation. Along with any other human activities that will be occurring, such as immediate study in a dedicated lab facility.
Because of its narcotic effect at high pressure, nitrogen shouldn’t be breathed by humans at depths below about 60 meters. So, at 200 meters, the breathing mix in the habitat will be 2 percent oxygen and 98 percent helium. But because of its very high thermal conductivity, “we need to heat helium to 31–32 °C to get a normal 21–22 °C internal temperature environment,” says Rick Goddard, director of engineering at Deep. “This creates a humid atmosphere, so porous materials become a breeding ground for mold”.
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So everyone is gonna sound like mice when they get crushed under the weight of the ocean?
Apparently when doing saturation diving like that you can’t even understand what the other person says, between the helium and the pressure the voice is too distorted to be intelligible.
You can communicate with a computer that transforms your voice to be intelligible but it is really not a pleasant conversation so you can stay there for weeks without having a conversation except for the bare minimum.
Hmm… maybe not? The low density of helium at 1 atm is what causes the amplification of higher frequencies in the voicebox, but in a pressurized container the gas would be higher density so it might offset the effect… I think?
If the original SeaLab tests in the 60s were any indication, YES. Check out Scott Carpenter’s voice on this recording with LBJ. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3wkh6s
Love the horribly confused operator trying to fix problems with her equipment before putting the call through to the president.
What they mean is they will need to use the amount of energy that you would normally put into air to get it to 31° C, but the helium will only get to 21° C. At no point will the helium actually be 31° C.
I love me some Mingus Dew
Read headline, music immediately started in my head, “if you’re looking for me…”
You better check under the sea!
Lol, that show is among the stupidest things I’ve ever loved.
Well hello, consumer, yes hello consumer bop bop bop bop be da bup bebop cola!
And I say to myself… I need exact change…
I want to be an Adrienne Barbeaubot!
Sparks: … would you ever put your brain in a robot body?
Murphy: Why? I like my body. Ha, I love my body.
Dart in the neck!
It’s not a toy. It makes real cupcakes… with a 40 watt bulb… and there’s icing packets. But the secret ingredient is love… Damn it.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? ‘No!’ says the man in Washington, ‘It belongs to the poor.’ ‘No!’ says the man in the Vatican, ‘It belongs to God.’ ‘No!’ says the man in Moscow, ‘It belongs to everyone.’ I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose… Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well.
I’m having mixed feelings. Are we going here or not? On one hand no censoring… On the other hand… No censoring. Also doom, but there’s also doom here too.
the whole point of the game was to illustrate how dumb libertarians are
Yes! Everytime anyone says anything about Libertarians I bring up Keene, NH. A Libertarian utopia that was so awesome, Black Bears joined the fun and took over the town.
Holy shit they made SCP-2875 a real thing
Grafton, not Keene. Keene did have some free staters, but the cryptocurrency sovereign citizen pedophile kind.
Oh yeah! Grafton. Got those two mixed up lmao. They cut the towns taxes to zero and couldn’t pay the garbage pickup. That brought the bears who proceeded to rule the town.
Perhaps. But I think I may have figured out their logic… no bears under water. So they won’t have to worry about bear attack while drowning from lack of maintenance
Giant squids are the bears of the ocean
Hell yeah they are. Them’s my boys.
lots of leopards though
Water bears
I don’t remember being able to play Doom in BioShock… 🤔
“Unless that man is an actual laborer, haha, fuck those plebs”
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his chattel property’s brow?
“Oxygen.”
Build them as connectable hexagons. Learn from the insects, they’ve had a half billion years to figure out what shit works and what shit don’t.
The hexagon is only stronger than a circle if you’re gridding it.
EDIT (stronger for the TOTAL material used)
Sure when in air. Not so much for underwater or really anywhere where they have to deal with a pressure differential, either positive or negative, where large flat sides are detrimental.
Did you mean “truncated icosahedron”? A hexagon is 2d.
Nah if you only build a 2D structure, you won’t have to worry about the water pressure because your structure will likely not be able to interact with 3D matter. It’s genius engineering IMHO.
What happens in the abyss stays in the abyss.
Very interesting to read, but sounds so astronomically expensive and reliant on zero mistakes in every single aspect of manufacturing every single thing going into the pods, that no one will sustain paying for this shit beyond angel investors.
you should read michael chrichton’s book sphere. it talks about some of the tom & jerry tier physics and biology disasters that can happen in a deep sea habitat
Yep I own a hardcover of it; fucking fantastic book, and excellent film adaptation.
Ooh. Dunno about the adaptation side of things. I will say that I read the damned thing all in one night. Had to stay home from classes after doing so. Good book, to say the least.
Many people said the same things about the ISS, I’m sure.
What government is interested in this project. Please name one.
Sure, but space habitats are far far more useful than underwater ones
There is definitively no shortage of challenges in orbit
I have an idea. Let’s stick all of the world’s billionaires into a submarine and see if lightning strikes twice.
Space is hard to get to, no gravity, and there’s radiation.
Underwater has high pressure, corrosion, and no natural lighting.
When you get an air leak in space, you find the hole and patch it. When you get a leak underwater, you don’t have to worry about it at all because it takes care of things in microseconds.
Just like with space you can build in redundancies though. You don’t have to be all Titan about it.
So Bioshock….
Would you kindly…
Well, it’s just scientists, so Sealab 2021.
Eventually, the techbros will make a cheaper version and add the pod to the end though.
Pod 6? I hate Pod 6!
Total suck pod.
as long as they don’t use a logitech controller i’m sure it’ll be fine
The logitech controller was fine, although it was questionable to be using a bluetooth one.
I now wonder if part of the reason that all happened is because the controller battery died, so they couldn’t ascend.
Nah, the shell cracked, pretty much instant death. Dodgy tech works until it doesn’t, only the first critical failure matters
Well duh? I’ve read the reports. I mean that maybe they went too deep because the controller died. Eg, dude holds button that tells controllers to go deeper. Controller dies… Sub just takes last input and keeps going deeper until it hits the catastrophic depth.
Guy was an idiot for sure, I just wonder if the controller played ANY role at all.
The F710 isn’t Bluetooth; it uses its own dongle.
Still.
So basically Rapture
If anything goes slightly wrong I die instantly you say? I need to sign up NOW
Yeah, wouldn’t mind that for the next 4 years or so, possibly longer.
The trouble with all these schemes is that it’s totally contrary to poweful real world trends. The surface of the Earth has an overwhelming abundance of rural land that is incredibly hospitable to life. And these places are depopulating because people prefer living in cities. How are you gonna get people to move to the bottom of the sea, or Mars, if they don’t even want to move to West Virginia?
Which part of the article mentions any of that?
The trouble with these commenters is that they don’t read the articles. This one isn’t at all about getting people to move underwater, it’s very specifically about habitats for ocean researchers to live in, rather than spending enormous amounts of time decompressing after relatively short dives.
People don’t really want to live in the cities they just want to live where they can get a job. Largely rural communities don’t really have an overabundance of employment opportunities, tend to have crap internet, and most of the properties are already owned by rich people who want a second home, so house prices are completely insane.
Will it be filled to the brim with billionaires so it can also malfunction and we are on time for the annual billionaire sacrifice to the sea gods?
Researchers are rarely rich, despite deserving it more than others.
The episode where he tells Jonathan Brandis about condoms remains to this day the cringiest thing I have ever seen on a TV show. By far.
Wow, that’s way more detail than I ever want to remember.