Will we know why had universe began, why there is something instead of nothing.

  • Sixty
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    04 months ago

    My bet is if we do it’ll be some unsatisfactory brute fact the last smart guy will figure out 3 days before the Sun grows too hot for us to survive any longer.

  • Snailpope
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    04 months ago

    "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

    There is another theory which states that this has already happened."

    • Douglas Adams
  • @7uWqKj@lemmy.world
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    04 months ago

    Asking “why” only makes sense in the context of a conscious decision, unless you accept something like “because the Big Bang happened” as an answer.

  • burgersc12
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    04 months ago

    Well depends on what you mean by “scientific”. Do I think modern science is capable of seeing anything beyond the testable and observable? No way, so there is nothing to determine a “why” with science alone. If there is an answer to why the universe began, I believe you’d have to ask the Infinite Void and hope for a response. According to the big bang theory we all came from one place, i.e. one “thing” created the entire universe, so only that “thing” would know “why” we were created.

  • Zloubida
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    04 months ago

    No. There is a range of hypotheses, from “none” to “because a supernatural creator willed so”, but they’ll stay hypotheses. You can study them and find which one makes more sense for you, but there will never be certainties.

  • @cm0002@lemmy.world
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    04 months ago

    There is no reason, it’s just random shit causing random shit. If random shit happens on the universes timescales of billions and trillions of years then cool stuff is bound to happen eventually. There’s no rhyme or reason for it.

    • tired_n_bored
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      04 months ago

      But it’d be cool to understand how the universe is even here. Why do we have particles and energy? Where does all that come from?

  • @CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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    04 months ago

    We don’t even know if there is a reason or not. If stuff like cause and effect are properties of the universe itself, they they don’t necessarily have to apply to it coming into existence (and if time and space are merely a part of the universe with no equivalent beyond, then the concept of it being caused by something runs into the issue of there being no time before it for a cause to occur and no place before it for that event to happen in).

    There could be some equivalent of all those things of course, that the universe exists within, but we can’t just assume that.

  • @cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world
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    04 months ago

    I’ve sometimes thought, that if there is a purpose or reason for our universe, it’d make most sense to me that its some form of random number generator.

    That said, I also accept that this whole thing, me as part of this universe, is just a happenstance. We happen. It happens. This happens. Now happens. Nothing more to it than that.

    The happenings can be important to some, can echo, and harmonize, or create dissonance in the future, but fundamentally there is no guiding hand outside reaching in, and so what we make of this, and the actions we make, is just what happens on the skin of the here and now of this universe.

  • @seven_phone@lemmy.world
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    04 months ago

    It has been said here already but I will say it again, there is no why. Why is a human thing, perhaps an animal thing, at least it is connected to conscious thought. When it rains you do not ask why you can only research how. This is a difficult lesson, we live in a human culture and so feel comfort in being able to ask why people do things as well as how. Not having the why attribute for the physical universe feels cold and inhuman, but the universe is inhuman, even if it’s difficult that is the deal.