• magnetosphere
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    I wonder how long their corporate overlords will allow this to continue.

  • @futatorius@lemm.ee
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    Most of the X links on Reddit just point to non-X content anyway, and are used by Reddit posters to circumvent subreddit policies on excluding dodgy sources. In other words they were using X as a shitty URL shortener.

    • @jol@discuss.tchncs.de
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      You can always leave their @handle if you want to credit them. Most artists also have other channels. If they only have X… Well sucks to be them but it’s thteir choice.

  • @absquatulate@lemmy.world
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    02 months ago

    Wow, leave it to redditors to make change without actually making change. A few of those subs had open discussions on instituting a ban and they discovered x links were in the dozens per year. Musk is definitely gonna feel that. What they should have done is ban all twitter images as well, those fuckers make up 3/4 of posts on /r/popular. Or ban/restrict musk news, because it feels like the remainng 1/4 posts are “news” that cover musk, including dozens of discussions on whether the nazi cheated in fucking videogames or not ( same as here come to think of it ). But no, they’re addicted to those and unable to make meaningful changes, so they’re left with these halfcocked “bans”.

  • @Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    02 months ago

    Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for information shared on social networks to be controlled, shutdown and people to be censored based on unknown and ambiguous criteria, without even understanding the implications of it.

    Details at six

    • @probably2high@lemm.ee
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      02 months ago

      What does freedom of speech have to do with independent subreddits deciding they don’t want to serve content from a private company they don’t agree with?

      • @Freefall@lemmy.world
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        02 months ago

        It’s easy if they have no idea what “freedom of speech” actually means and what it actually allows. The phrase at face value is nothing like the constitutionally protected action. They are too ignorant to know that.

      • @KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        02 months ago

        That’s easy, freedom of speech means you can say what I want but not what you want, and it applies everywhere including in my dreams. So if you say something I don’t like in my dreams I can criminally charge you and take you to hell in a cell.

    • @kava@lemmy.world
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      02 months ago

      Look, I’m all for freedom of speech. I’m nearly as close to an absolutist as they come.

      This is an example of a protest. Nobody is restricting anybody’s speech. They aren’t banning Musk-supporters. They aren’t censoring Trumpers. They are specifically banning links to a website owned by a billionaire who did a Nazi salute at an event where hundreds of millions if not billions of people would witness him.

    • @stardust@lemmy.ca
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      Existence of mods goes against the concept of freedom of speech. People aren’t prevented from directly using Twitter themselves. They’d be on 4chan if they wanted something as close to an unfiltered internet.

      We wouldn’t be on our respective instances that have blocked off entire instances and communities if we wanted to consume unfiltered internet content.

    • @Saryn@lemmy.world
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      Not to worry, you’re simply confusing freedom of speech with obliging private actors to consume content they don’t want to consume or disagree with. The first is a fundemental principle of democratic legal systems and recognized as a perempotry norm under international law. The second is authoritarianism.

      There’s a growing number of legally illiterate people who think freedom of speech is absolute and even affords one the right to oblige others consume their speech through the government. That is fundamentally wrong and a complete misunderstanding of how these key principles of freedom work and have always worked in modern democratic systems.

      Newsflash - freedom of speech is not absolute. Never has been. There are very specific, explicitly codified limitations. Why? Because words are the most powerful weapons and can be used to target and threaten the freedoms of other people, including their freedom to life. Which is why rights and obligations are always balanced against each other, following the principle of proportionality.

      If you feel so strongly about not being able force others to consume content they don’t want to consume, then I have bad news for you - you are opposing democracy. But it seems like you, and many other like you, are just confused, rather than actively promoting anti-democratic standpoints. The truly sad part? The impact is the same regardless of intent.

      Edit: Want to know more? Details at 6.

      • @Digital_Lemmy@lemmy.world
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        02 months ago

        It’s so typical to see 90% good argument and 10% insult the OP & half the country. If believers stuck to the 90% good argument and left out the insults you’d win a lot of followers.

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    02 months ago

    Aaaand here come the admins to relentlessly bully any mods involved in this into submission. Because the reddit admins are pathetic, greedy little pig boys who don’t give a flying shit about their users or moderators.

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    Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them.

    That protection.

    My first reaction when seeing the salute was ” oh come on, it can’t be that bad… oh it’s way worse than I thought”

    • @stardust@lemmy.ca
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      02 months ago

      I laughed when he did it twice as if just to emphasize the first one wasn’t a mistake.

      • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        02 months ago

        Supports far right movement in Germany, says they are the only way to fix Germany.

        Agrees with Jewish people being anti white- "“Jewish communties [sic] have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.”

        The billionaire owner and CTO of X, formerly Twitter, responded the same evening: “You have said the actual truth.”"

        Does NAZI salutes on a national platform.

        People in denial: “I’m sure it was a mistake”

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          I don’t think it was a mistake, I think it was more, “lol, let’s see what the media says about that!!” They made a spectacle of him jumping on stage at the campaign trail, so I truly think he did that to troll a bit.

          He’s a real life Bruce Wayne, but without the Batman bit.

    • @Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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      02 months ago

      I mean if you only saw and read Reddit during the last election campaign, you’d be ABSOLUTELY sure at the first half of the campaign that Biden was going to win, might as well don’t have an election at that point

      And then, after Kamala got into the campaign, again, if you only saw and read Reddit, you’d be, again, ABSOLUTELY sure that she would win, it wasn’t even a contest.

      If reality were downvotes, upvotes or massive bans to users posting against the thread zeitgeist, yeah sure, that would be what happened.

      Hard to accept reality after that harsh wakeup call

    • Lemminary
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      02 months ago

      I get it, why give him any attention. But this is not about him–it’s about the protest this time. That’s fine by me, let’s get people going!

  • bean
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    02 months ago

    If this is what it took they were just lazy before. This has been CLEARLY where he is pushing things for a long time now. Twitter is in the Xhitter.

    • @IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
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      02 months ago

      Can’t musk simply state that naziism is wrong and hitler was a very bad guy?

      That’s right of coarse he can!

      HHHMMM!

      • @parody@lemmings.world
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        02 months ago

        Why?!

        Le epic 14 y/o troll mAStEr mOvE was doing the worst nonverbal political thing one can do and getting away with it without apologizing.

        The centrists accept it might have been inadvertent. He’d never have the lefties anyway and the far right will, of course, absolutely love it. It’s the kind of thing a kid in shoes of power might dream up and run by the team and all have fits of laughter: “they can’t prove anything if you don’t say anything!”

        /fiction /conspiracytheory

        Nice way to commemorate the Jan 6ers’ prison release. And great distraction, as it must be.

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    02 months ago

    Wow, “super effective” now the big boss of neo-fascism is in trouble with this. We will now beat them. Next week no one will talk about it anymore

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      So, your stratagy is nukes or go home? You just want one decisive move to win, otherwise why bother?

      When a baby is born it doesn’t just run out of the womb and poop in a toilet. First it slides out. Many months later it starts crawling. Then slowly walking. Then walking. Then running. Then potty training. THEN it can run to a toilet to poop.

      But by your logic, oh well, can’t run to a toilet on day 1. Best just not to be born.

  • WheelchairArtist
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    why do they still show these kind of pictures of him. for me there is only one picture of him to show from now on

    • Echo Dot
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      Oh yes for the totally unproblematic picture taken at the inauguration, and since it’s so unproblematic he can’t possibly have an issue with it being posted.

      Although a solid second favorite is him in a punk leather jacket. Mostly because he hates it.

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      02 months ago

      I would also accept the picture of him leaping 2" off the ground with both arms up and his belly showing.