On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued “Download and Transfer via USB” feature to archive your Kindle library.

  • madjo
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    010 months ago

    I’m really glad that I downloaded my entire Kindle library a month ago, and converted it all to either CBZ or Epub.

    Fuck Bezos.

    One tip for the audiobook-fans: Download your Audible books while you still can. It’s only a matter of time before Bezos locks those downloads too. Libation will help liberate your library into DRM-free files.

  • @st3ph3n@midwest.social
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    010 months ago

    This is why I have an Android e-ink device. I can put the kindle app on it for anything from their shitty walled garden, but I also can put pretty much anything else I want on it too.

  • WatDabney
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    010 months ago

    It’s not an accident that I download epubs and read them on Moon+.

    Amazon signaled clearly years ago that their goal wasn’t to make a convenient ebook reader, but to create an entire proprietary e-reading system designed solely to extract as much money as possible for as little value as possible. And this is just another step in that ongoing process.

  • DFX4509B
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    010 months ago

    If this doesn’t help physical book sales, nothing will.

  • @Rolder@reddthat.com
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    010 months ago

    My Kobo e-reader is pretty nice and takes any ol e-pub file just fine. And Calibre, a third party software for managing ebooks, has a plugin to crack Kindle files. Just sayin

    • Rose
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      10 months ago

      And Calibre, a third party software for managing ebooks, has a plugin to crack Kindle files.

      Unfortunately currently broken for the latest version of Kindle for PC, which switched to a different encryption scheme. It also uses KFX file format that nobody likes, which fortunately can be converted to EPUB with another plugin, but de-DRMing doesn’t seem to work right now. It still seems to work for titles in AZW3/MOBI that didn’t get DRM update or didn’t have DRM in the first place.

    • SaltySalamander
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      And Calibre, a third party software for managing ebooks, has a plugin to crack Kindle files

      Which requires being able to download those files from Amazon. Which is what this post is all about, Amazon not allowing you to download the files anymore.

      • @Rolder@reddthat.com
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        010 months ago

        I was thinking along the lines of if you already had them downloaded and wanted to switch off to something else

  • @spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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    010 months ago

    It’s not just Amazon. Libraries (and Libby, the app they use) are also making it difficult to do anything but read in a browser or use Kindle.

    • @utopiah@lemmy.world
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      010 months ago

      Libraries (and Libby, the app they use) are also making it difficult to do anything but read in a browser or use Kindle.

      Sadly too true. To be fair though I don’t think ANY librarian want that.

      Here in Belgium we have an online library ( lirtuel.be ) that isn’t actually too bad. I looked it up and they say they provided ePub/PDF so I registered right away. Then… I discovered what they meant wasn’t ePub/PDF but rather DRMed ePub/PDF (here is an example https://www.lirtuel.be/resources/67aaf2124e480409978b68fb with ePub logo on the top right). Anyway I contacted them explaining that my ebook reader (reMarkable) does not support DRM and thus I couldn’t read the content. They pointed me to their documentation https://confluence.demarque.com/confluence/cantook-station/fr/faq/verrou-numerique-et-identifiant-adobe/qu-est-ce-qu-un-verrou-numerique-drm which implies it’s all “normal” to use that. I insisted, they didn’t reply.

      Long story short, I’m either not using their service anymore or using DeGourou https://github.com/Bingwithyou/DeGourou to make the content legally loaned actually usable. Sad state of affairs but I’m convinced none of the actual librarians, namely people who care for making knowledge discoverable and accessible like that. I’m sure they’ve been coerced by same big publishers.

    • Polysics
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      010 months ago

      Overdrive (which is Libby) integrates directly into the Kobo OS so you can borrow books directly on the device instead of the roundabout way you have to do it on the Kindle.

      • @spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works
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        010 months ago

        Overdrive’s being phased out and being replaced by Libby according to the 2 libraries I frequent. I wonder if it will still be supported on Kobo OS once the website and apps are shut down?

        • @Anysia@lemmy.ca
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          010 months ago

          My library has used Libby for years. It’s another version of Overdrive. My library books download to Kobo fine unless they’re changing something else I don’t know about.

    • @webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
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      10 months ago

      PSA: “Archiving” is a general legal-neutral and safe term you can use with co-workers.

      Wether i am also a pirate one may speculate but i am always an archivist.

      • @stardust@lemmy.ca
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        010 months ago

        Turns out it really is archiving when government decides to go renegade and start deleting everything they disagree with or wipe from history. Archive away beautiful data horders.

  • @Flatfire@lemmy.ca
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    010 months ago

    I wonder if this is at all related to the EU changes to eBook DRM standards, where the standard Kindle Adobe DRM isn’t compliant

  • @eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz
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    010 months ago

    I love my Kobo. I installed KO Reader on it and have Calibre for managing my ebooks.

    Get all my ebooks from z-library or Anna’s archive.

    • Arghblarg
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      010 months ago

      …and for those on Linux there is ‘DeGouru’, a tool for de-DRMing internet archive books that are lending-restricted.

      A bit annoying in that it is somewhat sensitive to the Python version one has installed but there are ways to manage that which I am not qualified to advise on.

    • Flying Squid
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      010 months ago

      That’s my situation too. Got the Kobo Clara Color as a Christmas present for myself (the color was like $10 more, so what the hell) after resisting eBooks for years, and I really love it.

      They take almost any ebook type, but they do have their own proprietary format, KEPUB. That’s what their own store uses. Thankfully, Calibre can convert to and from it. Due to Kobo being able to more easily handle zooming in to images and things like that with KEPUB, it’s sometimes worth converting.

      • @eagleeyedtiger@lemmy.nz
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        Nice. Mines an older Clara I bought about 5 years ago. I personally don’t have the use for a color screen, but for $10 I guess why not! Most books I read don’t have any images besides the cover

        I installed KO Reader as soon as I got it and never looked back. Not as pretty as the standard Nickel (?) OS but more customisable.

        I love having an e-reader. I read so much more because of it. Much more convenient, not having to worry about heavy books, holding open pages, no need to worry about proper lighting for reading. Light and small enough to bring everywhere. I will buy another immediately once this one dies.

  • @UncleJosh@lemmy.world
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    010 months ago

    I’ve been downloading my books but most of them are DRM so I can’t read them on anything BUT a Kindle. I’ve been thinking about getting another e-reader but I fear I’m trapped.

    • Daegalus
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      010 months ago

      Just look up Kindle DeDRM, it is easy enough to remove that stuff and then even convert them to epub

  • Magnus
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    010 months ago

    My favorite sites for actual ebooks are Humble Bundle and Fantastic. But these are predominantly tech books. No idea where I’d get good fiction in epub today.

  • @Xed@lemm.ee
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    010 months ago

    I use a library app called Libby to read non torrented books. But I’m not sure if it’s available on the kindle. It’s good to support your local library, even if it’s only digitally

    • RvTV95XBeo
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      010 months ago

      Libby is able to sync with your kindle, and then you just choose “send to Kindle” on your phone when checking a book out and the book will appear in your Kindle library.

      https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/6017.htm

      If you have a Kindle, this is 100% the best way to read books.

  • Prox
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    010 months ago

    Am I an idiot for enjoying my Kindle Paperwhite as an eReader, while at the same time never actually buying books from Amazon?

    • @Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org
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      010 months ago

      Same. I find ebooks for my family or we use Libby. I wouldn’t know how to buy a book on my kindle if I wanted to.

    • @TheEntity@lemmy.world
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      010 months ago

      Same. Most news sites treating this change as a “Kindle issue” is borderline disinformation. This is an “Amazon issue”. Kindle the device isn’t changing and there is no reason to switch if you already own one (just please don’t buy a new one).

    • @underwire212@lemm.ee
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      010 months ago

      It’s a good piece of hardware. I do the same thing. Although I recently got a Kobo and I gotta say that I do prefer the kobo slightly better. Kindle is still good shit though

  • gen/Eric Computers
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    10 months ago

    To all the people who are saying “I’ll just pirate books,” you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that aren’t Amazon, right?

    Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren’t Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

    I’d suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

    Saying “I’m going to pirate because one specific website is changing its policy soon,” is pretty stupid.

    • Magnus
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      010 months ago

      I hear you saying that, but the books I want to buy are never on those sites.

    • Magnus
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      010 months ago

      Addendum: that specific site is dog shit. Imagine thinking you just bought an ebook but instead you bought a lease to some DRM shit that only works on their app.

      EPUB or GTFO.

      • gen/Eric Computers
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        Thanks for asking this, that question made me go look it up.

        I found https://bookshop.org/info/ebooks

        I thought you could load bookshop.org eBooks onto a Kindle, but it seems they have their own DRM and you need to use their own app…

        Some of their books are DRM free, but not all. I thought they all were, but it turns out I was wrong.

        So… maybe even bookshop.org isn’t the best option for Kindles.

        I guess there really is only one option left…

        • @daytonah@lemmy.ml
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          010 months ago

          I went researched a few years ago and concluded that there is no option for writers to be guaranteed “no piracy” and that’s why they prefer having paperbooks. (That is also after brainstorming with a few people to publish my own book if it were…) and those days i was trying to find an important book in electronic format and could not find it anywhere, the paper 10th edition version (which i eventually bought) is like 1000 pages and the e version i found was 200 ish pages summary. So my sad conclusion was that i just need a big’ol scanner at home, just so that i can scan everything that i buy in paper just because i could then keep it personally on my e-reader (and having destroyedbinding of each book i buy lmao)… is that too much to ask… my wife says no… lol