What I constantly hear is deflections about how voting doesn’t matter, but it fucking does, yes the Democrats suck but they are better, it’s not even close.
Fight back and do everything you can to change what’s going on and blame Democrats but don’t sell out an entire election cycle to literal Satan to make that point
all that does is irreversible damage
literal Satan
American Civil Religion is very real
it sure is and yeah i was being exagatory for effect but if you’re just going to pretend there isn’t some very real damage being done that could have been prevented then the .ml brainrot is real
exagatory for effect
Yeah, the effect is that you look like a blueMAGA fanatic
You can label me with whatever epithet you want, but the reality is that voting Democrat was the correct choice to minimize damage. Is that where it ends? No. Should the Democrats be raked over the coals for their current and past inaction? Absolutely.
The reality is, if anyone who is upset with the Democrats truly wanted change, they would understand that change is slow. “Teaching the party a lesson” has historically only resulted in a shift to the right. Direct action is the only thing that works. But while that effort continues, I’d certainly prefer if the checks and balances of the government weren’t being actively weakened and exploited.
“The reality is that voting Democrat was the correct choice to minimize damage”
“Direct action is the only thing that works.”
Your worldview is incoherent. You don’t even have the self-awareness to see how your own thoughts and opinions are contradictory.
The correct choice to minimize damage to burger libs (while maximizing damage to everyone else but libs dont see nonwestern people as humans)
Vote Green when you can, and push on your representatives in between elections.
if a third party was possible under current electoral governance the green party would absolutely not be better
The Democratic Party on the whole is captured by the donor class as a direct result of Citizens United. This has led to the hollowing out of the grassroots movements that are necessary for a large coalition of diverse interests to compete against the oligarchic cabal that makes up the GOP. This decimated the rank and file operatives that used networking within their communities to create political action and replaced it with endless fundraising emails, even as the primary process was corrupted (Hillary v Bernie, Biden v Bernie) to remove clout from the progressive wing of the party.
This led to the disillusionment of many Democratic voters that they have any say in the nomination process (the last time we had a real primary was Obama 2008 - almost 20 years ago), and the result is a slate of weak centrist candidates that for the most part play lip service to liberal cultural issues while blocking any real progressive economic progress.
The purpose of the Democratic Party apparatus as it exists in 2025 America is to capture and dilute revolutionary energy, so that people don’t take to the streets and demand real change. Yes, there are some independents and good folks within the Democratic Party trying to make a change (AOC, Jasmine Crocket) but the power players (Pelosi, Schumer, Jeffries) are still refusing to stand up to the overt fascist takeover of our country.
The system as it exists will not change, and without change, we’re barreling into a fascism induced depression and possible civil war that will likely ravage the planet.
Democrats suck
Can I be blatant?
I DON’T GIVE A FUCK.
It’s Democrats, who have a voting history proving they regularly vote in favor of the middle/lower classes, statistics that prove they are better for our economy, and who don’t infringe upon our rights. Or Republicans, a traitor party who put a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election in the Oval Office, who is increasing our cost of living by starting fights with our allies and deconstructing our federal government.
I DON’T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS SUCK.
They are INFINITELY better than the only other option you’re going to get, probably in your lifetime, because 3rd parties aren’t doing the fucking work to get their reps in Congress so they actually stand a chance of winning a presidential election.
If you’re getting downvoted for criticizing Democrats, deal with it. It’s probably because we’re watching Republicans literally destroy our federal government before our eyes and fuck up our allegiances so we don’t really have a lot of patience for dumbfucks who say “Democrats suck” when clearly we’d be in a much more stable situation if we’d have gone with them instead.
The fucking Russians are here.
US Republicans are not democratic to begin with, they’re a christi fascist group that should have no right to exist as it inllinly makes the world better for a tiny tiny group of people over the backs of everyone else.
Having said that, the US Democrats are a godawful bunch of spineless dweebs that deserve everything that is coming for them. They lost the US elections because they still don’t understand what they should be, what their voter base wants or what that country needs.
As in criticizing Democrats on their merits or criticizing Democrats as equally bad as Republicans? Big difference between the two.
I don’t care about any of the two political parties. I just vote based on who sounds the least insane, greedy, fake, and qualified for the job. And maybe someone who doesn’t suck billionaire toe and can tax the rich.
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Yes but only democrats can say that.
Lemmy.ml; sigh.
Wake me up when you provide a feasible plan that doesn’t involve ritual self-mutiliation.
Grassroots campaigns for small local government positions building gradual power for progressives to replace them. Do your part.
I’m sure this will fix the frustration of people who already live in deeply progressive states.
I live in Oakland, California. Our recently-former mayor was just charged with corruption for taking bribes to get into office by promising contracts to moneyed interests. I’d sure like a Bernie type of person in charge of my city.
Is CA deeply progressive? Sorta; it’s viewed that way by a lot of people. Our AG is one of the ones fighting the Trump admin. Are we fucked regardless? I’d say yes. Your comment displays a lack of awareness of how bad things are.
ok, you win! this is by far the smartest response. everyone else is like lets tear shit down without an actual plan of replacing at the same scale.
Join PSL
Pumpkin Spice Latte?
Party for Socialism and Liberation
Nice. Now something that doesn’t involve ritual self-mutilation?
Bad faith, I see
I’ve actually lived under this brand of “socialism”. Have you?
At this point, we do need to burn the Democratic Party to ashes. We need to put it out of its misery and let It needs to go the way of the Whigs. Some things simply can’t be repaired.
There have been many countries caught in this same authoritarian trap that we’re in now. And one common lesson is that you need to give up on the captured opposition if you want to have any hope of actually ending the authoritarian regime.
Democrats are going to lose again in 2028. They’re going to yet again nominate a corporate centrist and yet again try the failed policy of appealing to Republican suburbanites. That’s all these clowns know.
How many times do they have to lose elections before we give up on these fucking losers? They lost in 2016, they lost in 2024, and they would have lost in 2020 if it weren’t for Covid.
The only reason to vote for Democrats is a pragmatic approach - they’re better than the alternative. But they don’t actually have that pragmatic argument anymore, and they haven’t for a long time. They’ve been completely unelectable for a decade at this point.
They’re a party of losers. Just absolute, irredeemable losers. They are fundamentally incapable of winning a presidential election now. They just don’t have it in them.
We need to let them go. It’s ritual self-mutilation to keep trying to prop up the dead corpse that is the Democratic party. It’s dead man. It’s time to let it go.
nice, even more self-mutilation talk. lets remove the opposition without offering a viable alternative. that’ll show it to these fascist pigs…
(i’ve lived this shit through too. it hasn’t panned out yet either)
Because we are tired of arguing nuance, while out enemied threaten to literally exterminate us. At this point, any straying from the left is a profound moral failing. It’s usually some kind if bigotry, or support of unscientific ideas.
You would think committing a genocide would’ve settled the whole “lesser evil” thing, but the Blue MAGA cult insists there’s a way to commit lesser evil genocide now.
#bothSides
If you somehow managed to reduce all of American politics into two sides, neither democrats nor republicans would be on yours.
Yes, actually. Both genocidal as a matter of fact.
I mean how dumb do you have to be to think genocide is equivalent in all scenarios?
One party’s leaders at least openly expressed their discontent with Israel and floated stopping arms shipments. And that party’s voters had a significant movement to express their discontent as well. The other party’s God-King literally said Israel should finish the job and is now posting on social media that he wants to level Gaza, ship Palestinians to other countries, and turn Gaza into a fucking vacation resort, and his voters are all about it.
Get the fuck out of here with your false equivalency.
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The problem with people with like you is you listen to what the Dems say they’re doing, and don’t bother to confirm what Dems are actually doing. It’s why you’re all terrified of Trump’s immigration policies, and have no clue that Obama & Biden deported way more people.
You’re in a cult.
Does the way in which they are deported matter?
Is it better when they target people who are undocumented and provably so vs just checking out everyone tanner than a Mainer in the winter?
Do you see a difference between the specific policies of the two administrations?
Hold up. You believe the Dems & GOP are swapping out frontline ICE and CBP agents during power transitions?
No, I think the administrators on top are switched and they give different marching orders. They enforce policy differently based on who is in the Oval office and that administration’s decisions. That is why there is a difference in how these deportations were carried out.
Do you think the top agents determine policy for an agency?
This is why no one takes Dem voters seriously. Y’all believe the press releases matter more than the material actions.
Battered spouse syndrome
the only voters that aren’t taken seriously in the USA are leftists and if you doubt that for a second please point out the progressive party that controls anything in this shithole.
My whole point is the material actions of the two administrations do differ. Trump is targeting anyone not white whereas Biden at least targeted people with legal violations. One policy puts all immigrants in fear while the other theoretically should not.
The fact that you can’t see the difference isn’t something I can help you with.
Youre going to keep doing this lesser evil bit until the dems have you seig heiling while the republicans drain your blood for the ritual to begin Armageddon.
Now this fucking guy is on .ml too?
The blue MAGA types are moooostly on .world, but they have the most users, so… .ml are mostly CCP with the same degree of dedication, and blahaj is that but with Likud. I just block .world and blahaj because they are right wingers beyond saving.
CPC -> Communist Party of China
Spamming as a conservative on multiple posts? This is the same type of posts you see on conservative reddit, always pointing out both sides, when there’s almost none of the same type of opinionated posts when referring to Republicans. I know you like to blame Dems, but Republicans are the ones actually promoting and using racism , and fascism right? Where’s the criticism against them with such vigor as your post. Your the reason why Reddit has been so aggressive with their banning
The Democratic Party as a whole is like milk in your fridge that’s a week past its “best by” date.
The Republican Party is milk that a dog vomited on a Texas in July sidewalk.
We’re drinking one of them, because no alternative is possible in the near term.
It’s possible to vote for Democrats in 2026 and '28 and '30 and '32 while we build an alternative that can have electoral success, or takeover the Democratic Party from within or heck turn the Republican Party into a party worth supporting…
I cannot tell you how sick of these pithy little infantalising pseudo-analogies I am.
No, genocide is not like “milk that is past it’s expectation date”. Talk like a damn adult.
Yeah. Drop another adult word to prove how strong you are!
Unsurprising that you consider talking like an adult to be worthy of criticism
How about a nice contrived trolley problem metaphor. Everyone loves those.
80 million Dem voters (depicted as “crowd of NPCs” meme): “We are voting for Democrats in the near term because there is no other option”
If all the milk in my fridge is spoiled, I throw it out. Maybe try that?
Aye, we need a new system.
Here you go. This is an option. There is historical precedent. The tea party, to name one example.
Great. Now you’re dying of thirst and the only milk left is the dog throw up vomit.
You can’t game the system by just saying you would do it better. That’s not how it works.
I’ll grab water, or run to a corner store to grab a non spoiled gallon…
So keeping with your analogy, you’re going against ever bit of legitimate survival advice from every single person that has any knowledge on survival, and you think you’re still making the right choice?
In any situation where clean water isn’t an option you still don’t drink things that will sicken you.
You can work to purify whatever liquid you have (which can be the easiest or worst option), you can leave the area and try to find safer sources of water, or you can piss in your own mouth for a while and try to do one of the other two things in the mean time.
Voters like you, however, drink the spoiled milk, diarrhea in your own mouths, while promising if you keep doing it you’ll get around to purifying your own milk laden shits if you just keep funding genocide.
You can’t change a rotted system from within anymore than you can survive on contaminated water. At best you’re making your life so much worse while deluding yourself into thinking you’re doing the right thing.
Ok awesome, you’re across the street yelling saying to drink better milk without actually having any better milk. That doesn’t make the situation any better
More like I’m showing you a 150 year old water purification technique that is proven to work and you’re concerned it might not taste as good and requires too much work so you’ll just keep drinking your own recycled shit and cry that there’s no solutions.
Yeah, you’re showing me a picture of that pure milk as if it’s a choice to drink it.
Unless you can actually give me that pure 150 year refined technique and not just say it can be better, shut up about it. Especially when you demanding the pure milk means we have to throw out the week old milk leaving us only the dog vomit milk.
Genocide supporters like you deserve to drink dog vomit.
Great. You just want people to drink spolied milk and are gloating because they don’t get a meaningful choice. You don’t care if you have to also have the dog vomit as long as no one gets a better choice than the spoiled milk, ever.
No, id much rather everyone on the block have better milk all around. But while you and your neighbors are refusing to drink the week old milk and dying of thirst, I’m over here trying to come up with an actual game plan with my spoiled milk instead of just screaming at others to drink better milk without actually having any source of better milk.
I don’t see your cow anywhere, but yet you act as if one’s going to magically appear cause you want it to.
No, id much rather everyone on the block have better milk all around.
Your positions indicate otherwise.
I’m over here trying to come up with an actual game plan with my spoiled milk
So far it looks like you’re gloating that no one has anything decent to drink.
No, I’m just so fucking tired of neighbors yelling how much better the milk is everywhere else like we don’t fucking know that. And unless you actually have a plan to get better milk, just saying drink better milk and throw that out doesn’t really mean much.
No, I’m just so fucking tired of neighbors yelling how much better the milk is everywhere else like we don’t fucking know that.
So you just want people to shut up.
And unless you actually have a plan to get better milk
Well, step one is to quit ordering people to be silent about drinking your shitty spoiled milk.
How can anyone read this childish nonsense and still think liberals are serious people?
Anyone here is allowed to start doing something more beside writing snarky comments. If someone wants to step up, great I’ll follow
But nobody here is doing shit. And us being fractured cause them to have more power
Yall couldn’t let good enough be. You needed perfect. And now it’s fucked.
Again
Someone here do anything besides write a comment
Until then drink your fucking week old milk
Yall couldn’t let good enough be.
Genocide supporting monster. You should be forced to drink dog vomit.
Just because you’re an overgrown child who sees everything through primary school metaphors doesn’t mean other people aren’t doing things, by the way.
Nope. You let a man win who will kill more people.
You’re a bad person
You let a man win who will kill more people.
Fucking deranged that you Nazi fucks care more about deaths that haven’t actually happened then the ones that have.
