Summary

Elon Musk claims to have saved taxpayers $105 billion, but its own figures add up to just $19 billion.

A New York Times report found DOGE falsely credited itself for long-canceled contracts, including a 2005 Coast Guard contract.

DOGE’s inexperienced staff, many tied to Musk’s companies, may be unqualified to understand complex government programs. Mistakes could be deadly, with one former USAID staffer warning tens of thousands of lives may be lost.

The Times alleged DOGE has been removing erroneous “savings” from its wall of receipts just to replace the mess-ups with new errors.

  • @tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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    14010 months ago

    its own figures add up to just $19 billion

    Even this is lying. It’s the equivalent of saying you lost weight after you chainsawed your arm off.

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      10 months ago

      Fun fact. If they go ahead with that plan that was floated to send every American 20% of the DOGE “savings”, based on that $19bn figure (which as you correctly point out, is a total falsehood; nothing is saved by cancelling completed contracts or downsizing revenue producing departments), the result would be that every American would get a one time payment of $10.

      That’s it. That’s what Musk is claiming to have saved the country; a McDonald’s happy meal. And for that he’s burning down departments like the consumer protection bureau that protects Americans from scams and exploitative business practices.

      • alaphic
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        1410 months ago

        Well that last part is only natural… He has to make sure he can make a living after all

        • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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          I mean you kid (I assume), but literally all of the departments targeted so far are ones that have been investigating Musk’s companies

          • alaphic
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            I wish I wasn’t (for a myriad of reasons, that being the least of which) yet, here we are

      • alaphic
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        210 months ago

        Or as I like to call it: The majority of my adult life

  • Dr. Bob
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    5610 months ago

    He reduced spending. We need to know the societal cost of those reductions before we can talk about savings. I suspect he has impoverished a generation.

    • @SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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      2310 months ago

      In the financial crisis in 2008, many countries deployed austerity programs to cut debts and costs. Their economies shrank and some still haven’t recovered from that experiment. And DOGE is austerity with a chainsaw, not with a scalpel. It’s going to hurt, a lot.

    • alaphic
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      1010 months ago

      Just one? You are far more optimistic than I am, clearly

    • @ceenote@lemmy.world
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      210 months ago

      We were already on that trajectory though. He just made it faster. If it sparks a meaningful backlash, it might turn out to have been a good thing.

  • @Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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    5110 months ago

    Even if it adds up to 19 billion, it will never be that number. There are costs to terminating a contract, usually requiring compensation for all materials bought or produced, as well as overhead costs related to the contract. There is a reason that contracts exist and it’s to disincentivize the dissolution of an agreement… Termination for convenience is not cheap.

    That’s not even getting into lawsuits related to direct employee terminations.

    And at the end, this is for what? What benefit do we get from tearing up contracts that are half completed and half paid for? What benefit is there in laying off people that wanted to serve and in many cases took a pay cut to do it, knowing that the trafeoff is stability of their employer and the knowledge that they are helping the country.

    • hash
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      1510 months ago

      knowing that the tradeoff is stability of their employer

      This shit will haunt us after I die. Trust has been shattered. Good luck calculating the cost of that.

  • HellsBelle
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    3210 months ago

    “mess ups”. Lol. Call it what it is Daily Beast … fuck ups. Fuck ups beyond all comprehension. Fuck Ups Beyond All Recognition.

  • @Botunda@lemmy.world
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    2510 months ago

    DOGE’s inexperienced staff, many tied to Musk’s companies, may be unqualified to understand complex government programs.

    Yes AND they are doing this on purpose. Evil fucks are trying to lie to their followers who will most likely eat that shit up.

  • @x00z@lemmy.world
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    1610 months ago

    Cmon guys. The math adds up.

    19 billion saved for the plebians, 86 billion saved for himself.

  • RejZoR
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    1210 months ago

    Like they gave Ukraine 300 billion where in reality it’s some 50B and the rest they “pledged” the same way Amber Heard pledged to help poor children…

  • Elaine Cortez
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    129 months ago

    I get that math is hard to some people, but every computer I’ve used has had a calculator of some sort.

  • Dogiedog64
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    910 months ago

    Damn, the ketamine really is freeing his mind! Freeing it to be worse in every way, that is.

  • @CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
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    69 months ago

    DOGE’s inexperienced staff, many tied to Musk’s companies, may be unqualified to understand complex government programs. Mistakes could be deadly, with one former USAID staffer warning tens of thousands of lives may be lost.

    Yeah, but are any of those lives billionaires? Then who cares? -Dogebags, probably.

  • @Darkard@lemmy.world
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    610 months ago

    Staff from musks companies, that are used to just spaffing their handout money up the wall, can’t figure out real budgets and contacts?

    What a fucking suprise.