It’s funny how far ahead 3d printers are in terms of consumer experience, everything is open, everything works and the tech is like 300 times more complex.
2D printer companies should be shamed to death.
Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?
There are some projects out there that do the entire frame. Steppers, hotend, and control boards are out of reach. There’s some hypothetical ways you could do it, but it’d be far more expensive than buying off the shelf stuff and probably get worse results. Even the frames tend to take a lot of filament.
It’s more of a nice idea than something practical.
Has anyone figured out how to 3d print a 2d printer yet?
Don’t worry. Companies like Bambu and others are trying to lock down shift their printer business in the style of 2d printer companies. I hope it at least happens very slowly, but the enshittification is happening…
Over time as 3D printers go from tinkerer’s toy to household staple, I’d expect them to become more locked down and anti-consumer.
Bambu is working on it already — can’t print unless you’re connected to the internet and send your files through their server, can’t connect to the printer with other slicers besides their slicer.
They had to walk that back some; there is now a “developer mode” where old standard functionality is still exposed, but they’re clearly working as hard as they can to turn it shitty.
Makers by Cory Doctorow is a great novel that explores exactly this.
By my count, it’s been tried twice.
Makerbot after the Stratasys buyout.
There were a bunch of companies that tried right after the FDM patents expired in 2009. Most of them were completely forgotten or ignored because they were closed source (and more importantly closed material) companies and never got very far off the starting blocks.
Bamboo learned from them and decided to pull the rug out after getting a foothold with finally selling decent prebuilt hardware for less than a fortune (see Ultimaker before buying out MakerBot at least).
Except those who aren’t.
People that Weasle their way up the corporate ladder have been prefectly groomed to have no shame.
This is mainly because consumer 3d printer have been developped by 3d printing enthusiast first and not a company, Prusa which was leader for some time used a lot of open sources project to build their printers. As it’s getting mainstream as time goes by more and more companies shows up with closed sources project sadly.
Isn’t prusa now doing anti consumer / closed source stuff?
You are not completely wrong, they have one printer with closed sources.
Aren’t you confusing them with Bambu?
Their slicer is based on Prusa’s exactly because Prusa isn’t doing closed source.
One of the latest Prusa printer is closed source If I remember correctly Core xy
What is that even supposed to mean?
It’s not that hard to convert a cheap 3D printer into a pen plotter is you want to do some 2D printing.
I rarely use a printer now that my kids are in college. When it dies, I had a choice between laser printer, Brother inkjet, or none. “None” is now my first choice
That’s what we did.
For the few pages we need to print, I can use the machine at the library for $0.10/page.
So issue here is privacy, the library is likely scanning whatever device connected, not just the files and file metadata
I kind of doubt it. Local libraries have a hard time staying open due to funding.
I trust the library a lot more than I trust Staples or a similar for-profit business.
$5 USB fob for printing
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Same but I thought Louis had a brother who became evil for some reason 😭
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enshitification of technological things continues…
Now i had to put on the in-ears, hook up to phone to… listen to a guy talking. -_-
Short summary: the MFC 3750 of Louis Rossman prints in worse quality with aftermarket ink, after he got a firmware update.
Click the wiki link
So laser ones are safe (for now)?
I’ve been saying that for a couple of years now. They started fucking with third party ink at least a year ago
Okay, so after reading this, they’re not specifically degrading print quality, they’re just making you do the alignment manually. This is probably legal, but still scummy.
I no longer have any corporate relationships that aren’t either apprehensive, strained, or downright antagonistic.
It’s us versus them now and they’ve give their last shits. It’s feeling like every company is a cable company now.
I have VERY few and I cherish them.
Fairphone feels great to me. I think My coffee stuff is the same (Profitec, Eureka Mignon); no app or wifi or anything, fairly available spare parts.
Didn’t fairphone start selling Bluetooth headphones after getting rid of the headphone jack
Sure did. Repairable ones. I strongly prefer wired headphones and will keep using them as I can, and I ain’t buying earbuds.
But I’d rather not let perfect be the enemy of good. I am not giving up a cellphone, so I’d rather have Fairphone trying (ans sometimes fucking it up) than give my money to anyone else in the market.
Them not being perfect in my eyes doesn’t qualify as a hostile relationship between their corporation and me.
Always has been like that.
Not one single corporation is your friend or wants to be. All they want is your money. No exceptions.
Companies were never our friends, but it used to be the case that companies sold products. They sold a product and you got to use it and that was the end of it.
Now instead, thanks largely to the Internet, companies barely care about ‘product’ at all and instead are all trying to get in on that gravy train of monetised data slurping, subscription models, DRM on every consumable, firmware updates that change the terms on you after the fact, and so on. Every electronic thing in your home is now super hostile to you.
TVs, printers, fridges. These products used to be just products, but now they are trojan horses.
This shift in business model also means a drop in customer service. They used to sell you a product and stand behind it because eventually they wanted you to choose them when you needed a new or different product. Now that they have you roped in via a sort of forced dependency, they don’t have to pretend to be nice to you even.
Exactly. The way to make money pre-Internet was “generate repeat business” and the way to do that was to create a product and service the customer was happy with.
The way to make money now is to get the customer trapped, then pump them as hard as possible.
I’ve always promoted commercial inktank printers for people who do a lot of printing, and people always mentioned Brother as a response, but tbh I’ve never really hopped on the bandwagon to shill for any particular company.
Just a good commercial inktank printer. A regular printer with all the bells and whistles is going to cost you like $100 and $45 for each ink pack you buy, you might as well just spend $450 on a printer, write it off as home office expense, and call it good.
Welp, I guess that pen plotter I built last year is going to be my full time printer
Framework printer.
Make it happen.
sorry maybe I missed a memo, people are still printing things… like, on paper?
I personally don’t, on the off chance I do need to print something I do it at work.
dude I would pay gold for that
Not saying they couldn’t/shouldn’t but printers are a nightmare hellscape and it’s a miracle, mostly of HP’s marketing department, that they’re a household object.
Back before everyone had maps on their phone, printing MapQuest maps was fantastic. This was the early 00’s though and we all had money to burn still.
…I remember Brother intnetionally making their stuff VERY user servicable.
Wha happen
Line go up
Shit come down
LINE GO UP
Man I’ve had a brother printer so long because of their Linux support this is so annoying
Same. I’m good for a while, but it’s going to suck if I ever need to replace it.
good news is modern Linux has great support for printers
