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    • @LandedGentry@lemmy.zip
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      09 months ago

      I need to look into it more but my understanding is all of those services are kind of bullshit. They’ll knock out a few things but also they become part of the problem, especially if you stop paying.

      • @Absaroka@lemmy.world
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        09 months ago

        I hear you. One of those ‘you shouldn’t have to pay for a service like this’ moments.

        In a moment of weakness, I signed up for Incogni. I was getting 3/4 phone calls a day that weren’t leaving messages and it was getting overwhelming.

        I will say, somewhat anecdotally because I’m too busy to crunch the numbers, but it doesn’t seem like the spam email, phone calls and text messages I get have dropped dramatically. My wife too.

  • lemonaz
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    09 months ago

    Funny seeing Musk on this list after his “I’m just a consultant” bit.

  • @turnip@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    Why are we doxxing these people, theyre running the same rat race as everyone else and doing a job the government we voted for is paying them to do. Is this supposed to be a petty revenge?

    • P03 Locke
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      09 months ago

      They know why they are in that department and job. They want to take an active part in dismantling their own government.

      Fuck these people.

      • @sleepyleaf@sh.itjust.works
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        09 months ago

        Honestly, I don’t think they really understand why they’re there.

        They’re in their twenties. Some of them are college students. I think at least one is a literal teenager.

        Musk chose these children because they don’t have the life experience to understand the consequences of their actions.

        Cut billions of dollars in aid to the poorest people in the world? Without having any authority to do it? An average person would stop and think “how many people are going to die from this?” Or, more selfishly, “what consequences will I face in the future if I do something so fundamentally evil?” Or, more practically, “is what I’m doing legal, and will Trump and Musk throw me under the bus and claim I acted without orders if I get criminally charged for this?”

        These kids aren’t thinking about long-term consequences. They’re thinking “the richest man in the world chose me to transform America and I have to live up to his expectations”.

        Blind loyalty. That’s it.

        It’s why armies recruit men young.

        • P03 Locke
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          09 months ago

          Cut billions of dollars in aid to the poorest people in the world? Without having any authority to do it? An average person would stop and think “how many people are going to die from this?” Or, more selfishly, “what consequences will I face in the future if I do something so fundamentally evil?” Or, more practically, “is what I’m doing legal, and will Trump and Musk throw me under the bus and claim I acted without orders if I get criminally charged for this?”

          These kids aren’t thinking about long-term consequences. They’re thinking “the richest man in the world chose me to transform America and I have to live up to his expectations”.

          You’ve almost got it right. An average person would stop and think about shit like that. A psychopath would not.

          They may be young adults, but they are still adults. Adults still go to prison for doing stupid shit that gets people killed. All of these adults are getting people killed. Literally.

          • @Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works
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            Pre edit: Oh, lol. I just typed this out and realized you were the same guy from elsewhere in the comments. Feel free to completely disagree with me, but I’m leaving this here for others that want to read and think.

            There are a lot of great answers to the question, how about this one.

            When the USA spent 6.5 billion anually (started with George Bush) it prevented 20 million people from being able to spread HIV each year. This includes to children that would be born with HIV. Now you might not have the empathy to consider investing that for foreign adults and children at the cost of double what just Elon Musk got last year in government contracts, but let’s change from HIV to the next Covid. What would happen to the rate of infection globally if 20 million more people from some of the poorest countries became vectors of a highly contagious deisease? That sounds like a problem for the USA to me.

        • Lemminary
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          09 months ago

          these children

          I’m sorry but no. When I was younger than that I was following the news. I remember listening to Dubya and Obama’s state of the union speeches and such. I remember being horrified at each war being declared. I remember how civil rights were given or taken away depending on the weather. And before that I was having debates with my teammates about religion and politics in and out of school.

          All this to say, besides that I was quite insufferable and still may be, is that I was refining my values and my morals along the way. I knew what was right from wrong, I knew where the boundaries lay, and I knew that certain actions by authorities were bad. And I was damn young. I don’t think I’m smarter than the average person, but I know damn well what I was thinking back then.

          Don’t underestimate young people. These people know very well what they’re doing.

        • @JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
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          09 months ago

          You’re not wrong that they might not realize the consequences. But the consequences are still real. I would much prefer that the consequences of their actions are things like cyber bullying and phishing instead of things like WW3 and yet another holocaust

          • @Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works
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            09 months ago

            Exactly. That’s why making it harder for them to dismantle the government is actively helpful to multiple nations, and being able to spoof emails from others on that list is probably the best way to get around any filters. Not that I’d ever advocate for doxxing. Nope. Definitely noone should ever do that or anything else illegal ever.

        • @michaelmrose@lemmy.world
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          09 months ago

          They are literally killing children and babies same as if they were standing there stepping on their little faces and leaving bloody footprints in their wake. No sympathy for child killers.

  • Secret Music
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    9 months ago

    [Removed by Reddit]

    Been a minute since I’ve seen that. And that’s actually one huge advantage of the Fediverse. There can’t be a [Removed by Lemmy] because ‘Lemmy’ is a federation of servers with their own rules and regulations and aren’t even all based in the USA. And if any server starts these shenanigans, you can just move to another.

    Although I do wish that profiles and comment history could be preserved from one server to another. That’s basically the last piece of the puzzle that would give the user a completely a completely free experience.

    • @SufferingSteve@feddit.nu
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      09 months ago

      Just allow people to bring their own IDs to servers. Self sovereign IDs, or SSI for short.

      Blockchain has a usecase here, and it would be for disabling your ID in case of privkey leak, or for having people or entities strengthen or verify your pubkey or tie a hash of your birth certificate to it.

      Blockchains are great for providing reliable immutable and verifiable timestamps of data. The reason they are safe is because a lot of people have tied actual value to it, and thus most don’t want to invalidate the blockchain and destroy their value.

    • @sleepyleaf@sh.itjust.works
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      Although I do wish that profiles and comment history could be preserved from one server to another. That’s basically the last piece of the puzzle that would give the user a completely a completely free experience.

      Something like an independent third party data bank that saves profile data? So your user data would be publicly accessible - any server can access it to populate your profile on that server - but nobody can update or delete it but you?

      Shit, have we found an actual use case for blockchain?

      • @homura1650@lemm.ee
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        09 months ago

        Just public key cryptography. All your actual posts and comment history are already shared. What is missing is a way to authenticate yourself to anyone but your home server. If the protocol included every profile having a public key, you could then use that to authenticate to any server. And managing that private key is no more complicated than managing your private key in a block chain context.

        Non public info like subscriptions is a bit more complicated, because there is an actual policy question of who you share it with. You would either need to make it publicly available, keep a copy yourself, or have your home instance give it to you/the other server at the time you want to migrate.

        • I’m as anti crypto rugpull nft bullshit web 3.0 is gonna be uuuuge bro i swear bro where are you going bro as much as the next person buuuuut…cryptocurrency is a godsend in shithole countries such as mine where the local currency is a joke and and possession of any non local currency is illegal

      • @frosty122@lemm.ee
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        Nah, There’s other ways to store data while preserving confidentiality, integrity and availability that isn’t on the blockchain. Besides A public ledger connected to a specific profile could make it easier for the profile to be doxxed/fingerprinted.

        Spitballing here but a service using simple key-pairs might be a better way to do this.

        • Users generate a key pair client-side.

        • Public key is stored on the server, acting as the user’s identity.

        • To update their profile, users sign the request with their private key. (Data is signed/verified client side before submission)

        • The server verifies the signature using the stored public key before edits can be made.

        Because data signature/verification are done client side theoretically you don’t need a ledger, your client can enforce profile state. (Maybe an HMAC is sent with the verified data and there reverted periodically by the client)

      • Secret Music
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        09 months ago

        Yeah it’s nice to be able to import your list of subscriptions at least. But for comment history, I guess it depends what you’re getting out of a place like this. On Reddit, I liked going back sometimes and seeing what I was posting a couple of years ago. Especially if it’s personal shit, or even old review posts for movies or whatever. I like having a stable online presence or identity with a history to refer to.

  • Rhynoplaz
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    09 months ago

    I don’t know what to do with this.

    But I sure hope someone does.

  • @nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    is this seriously it? 26 people are supposed to know enough about the inner workings of all these departments to be able to fire staff?

    there is not even an attempt to appear competent

    • @thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Could be anything from on entry point on a phishing campaign to simply flooding their inbox with useless shit

      Edit

      Also, they likely use exchange, so if you were to spoof their email@ domain.onmicrosoft.com address, you could really trick people into thinking it was an official email from any of those addresses

      • @I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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        09 months ago

        These are all on the same domain. I guarantee you they have extensive spam filters in place. “Flooding their inbox” will do nothing as the messages won’t even go to their inbox.

        • @thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world
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          09 months ago

          You gotta spoof the from email address. If you find an open mail relay, it’s as easy as using the send-mail command in PowerShell. I never actually did that particular kind of operation in Linux, but I would be surprised if there isn’t a cli that would do that.

  • @Jove@lemmy.world
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    09 months ago

    Does this not break the lemmy world TOS, classifying as doxxing and/or attacking a group of people?

    https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

    I’m a new user and, like an adolescent being new to life, I need to calibrate my psyche by seeking out the limits of the space I’m operating in. Thanks.

    • @JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, most of them look generated but it looks like that guy chose his email. I bet he uses that elsewhere, and I bet he’s dumb enough to be on some password list somewhere

      Edit : https://haveibeenpwned.com/ erm7@gmail.com shows a few interesting pwns. I bet you could find those lists and run a few shots at that .gov email

      • comfy
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        09 months ago

        Yep, date of birth is 71 so it’s very unlikely to be an automatic initials+random number username.