“I don’t care about minorities enough to sacrifice anything about my way of living.”
As someone who calls himself that:
“I am a liberal but the liberal want to go after the upper middle class instead of after the top 0.1%”
P.S: I’m from Switzerland, so don’t tell me about Trump. I knoe he’s a fascist and I would have voted against him. But here in Switzerland we have more moderate choices.
“I don’t hate you because you’re a POC, a woman, or queer. I hate you because you’re poor.”
“I’m a prick but I also like to smoke weed”
Depends on if they mean capital C conservative or not
Conservative with a hard r.
“I judge the parties on their rhetoric instead of their record.”
“Trump is going to pivot any day now!”
I assume they vote liberal or are uncomfortable being seen as the hateful sack of shit they are.
If we’re talking America the parties align like this:
- Democrat: Socially moderate, fiscally conservative
- Republican: Socially regressive, fiscally liberal
Republican: Socially regressive, fiscally liberal
Are massive tax cuts really considered fiscally liberal? The vast majority of the deficits that Republicans cause are due to tax cuts choking government funding.
I mean yeah probably. I mean when I think of defining liberal economics I think of what would Adolphe Thiers say. So yeah I think he’d be okay with handouts to his rich friends. Enriching the bankers and fucking over the working class.
Me as an ESL being utterly confused by people’s replies when apparently I understand “conservative” as per Merriam Webster dictionary definition 2.a “marked by moderation or caution”
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“I’m an uninformed idiot.”
Conservatives are fiscally reckless. Look at every conservative president’s deficit spending, and economic crashes. Look at the states most dependent on federal funds.
Even if you had zero morals and voted 100% on fiscal policies, the best choice is very clearly not conservative.
I link this article every time the discussion comes up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_by_presidential_party
The first paragraph is a doozy.
Hence why republicans want to get rid of Wikipedia. For all of its faults they generally do a decent job of going slash and burn on any editors that cannot fully back themselves up or have clear political alegances.
Seeing the complete flopping of conservapedia, of course they want to get rid of it.
Anything that keeps a clear record of what people say or believe in, without that changing based on someone’s mood on a particular day is going to be a flop on that side of the spectrum.
I love yelling at my Facebook “friend” whenever gas prices go up a cent now. Under Biden it was all the damn time he’d cry about that but never acknowledged of it went down.
MUH EGGZ
Poes Law very much applies, but I’m pretty sure Conservapedia is a troll. Just look at their list of “Greatest Conservative Songs”.
it ain’t even edit protected
Does the fact that American “conservative” politicians are lying about it make it an invalid position to take?
Don’t confuse “Republican” with “conservative”, especially on economic matters. Republicans are historically economically liberal, ie. they are for unregulated markets. A fiscal conservative likes to cut spending, yes, but not to cut revenue.
Not even economically liberal, just irresponsible and corrupt.
That’s kinda the inevitable result of economic liberalism, especially with the added zest of corporate personhood.
Look, I think there is something to it, but you really have to give details. I’m good with free access to healthcare, good with people marrying whoever they want (over the age of 18), transgender rights, etc.
All of that. I love it all. But I’d rather not be taxed to hell and have those funds horribly mis managed. I’m okay with taxes but I know there is so much waste with my funds. That’s where I’d like improvement. I suppose in some eyes that would make me slightly fiscally conservative.
No, that means you just like a functioning government. That has nothing to do with fiscal conservatism.
If you were a fiscal conservative, you would be against spending any money on healthcare, let alone giving “free access” to everyone.
Is it guaranteed they’re voting conservative when they say that?
Having grown up in a conservative household in a red state (US), and having thought this as I transitioned away to more liberal stances as I learned more about the world, I have to say: Spot on. I was an uninformed idiot.
The worst idiots are the ones who never admit when they’re wrong. Having the backbone to admit an error, change, and and move on speaks volumes.
True, I went through that phase as well. It usually came with a side of insecurity. Just happy to have grown in more than just age.
They don’t pay attention to the world around them.
To the small handful of socially liberal and fiscally conservative folks that found this thread let me ask a few questions:
- Does it make more fiscal sense to build a chemical treatment plant next to a neighborhood of people that can afford lawyers or a neighborhood of those that can’t?
- What is the social makeup of each of those neighborhoods?
- How did that social makeup come to be?
I think we have countless words. We should use our words.
We all have a spectrum of social and economic and other ideals.
Those who want to lead us have theirs too, and they’re the ones who need us to commit and compartmentalize into ideologies and macro definitions that get twisted.
“I don’t like being held responsible for the outcomes of the fiscal policies I fully support”
I assume they’re not that big into politics and just wanna appear moderate.
“I haven’t thought about politics for more than 30 seconds in my entire life but I don’t want to admit that and don’t want to sound like a complete asshole” is about the most charitable way I can translate that sound bite.
“I’m a liar, pretending to be a libertarian. Fund the police so they can shut down the protests for things I don’t like.”
“I’m simple and don’t bother to look deeper into anything”
