Are people shocked that windows keeps removing things that allow the os to be usable and debloated?
Copilot recording your screen will be a non optional feature before win11 is over.
Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.
I’m switching as soon as I finish grad school.
Fix:
open this site: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
check your options that you like
download your xml
download win 11 iso
put on stick (with rufus) with the downloaded xml file
install win 11
profit
I’ve had issues with the installer from 24H2 for my unattended. I had to use the previous versions installer and installed the 24H2 ISO.
Noooooo!!! You can’t just force us to use a Microsoft account!!! You have to allow us to use the bypasserino!!! Noooooooo!!!
IMO, Windows without a Microsoft account misses out on the least features, when compared to macOS without an Apple ID, iOS without an Apple ID, or Android without a Google accout. Sad that Microsoft keeps making it more and more difficult to bypass logging into a Microsoft accout during installation. But I use Linux anyways (btw)
Android without a Google account is great though
That is nice, but I need the Google Play Services for push notifications on the messaging app that everyone in my country uses. It’s sad, I know. If it weren’t for that I wouldn’t log in to a Google account on my Android phone either.
Yeah OK, that’s fair. It’s really a shame how dependent notifications are on Google. ALl the other things - Mail, Photos, Drive,… - are a lot easier to replace.
I’M OKAY WITH MAKING A WINDOWS ACCOUNT. I’M JUST NOT OKAY WITH MY ~/ PATH BEING
C:/Users/Jacobuedhbcuycbdhh55674c4bhdncy6448774/THIS CAN ONLY BE FIXED BY CREATING A LOCAL USER AND THEN SIGNING IN
Is that how it is these days? If I log with my Microsoft account on a Windows device, the username used is only part of my first name. It always annoyed be that it was cut in a very unnatural way and I had no way to change it. I searched for some way to fix it and what I found said it was auto generated way back in the first time I used it on a windows pc and that it was saved in my account in some attribute that nothing ever updates.
Maybe your parents should have picked a better name then.
So happy that I switched to linux. Microsoft has been one of the main forces of enshitification of the world. Fuck em. I cant play a bunch of games with my friends anymore, and I have to learn a few new CAD programs, which is like 10 thousand hours of work that I am flushing down the toilet. Worth it.
Off course, coz they wanna sell user behavior to marketers. This bullshit talks about the improved security are funny. I will never use anything from Microsoft or Google for personal stuff. I have to yet eliminate Apple - in progress.
I’ve got my first son or daughter on the way, I’m thinking they might be learning Linux as their first OS
No offense to Linux but it’s super similar to Mac. So it is worth just learning Linux.
Uh… what? They only thing they have in common is following the POSIX standard. The moment you step outside of that POSIX lowest common denominator, it becomes abundantly clear just how different they are.
I mean compared to some elements of windows, yeah Linux is more similar to macos. But compared to other elements of macos, Linux is more similar to windows. But to say it’s super similar to either one in particular is kind of missing what makes each of them what they are.
Macos and Linux skills and fluency aren’t significantly more transferable than between Linux and Windows. They’re three pieces of software that ultimately try to do the same thing, but go about it in drastically different ways. There are only so many ways from your house to the grocery store, so some of them are bound to cross.
To be fair, this is home and not pro.
It doesn’t state anything of the sort in the article. Where did you read that?
Perfessional experience installing windows.
I too have installed Win11 Pro several times on computers, captain obvious. I know you can do that now.
I am asking that how did you reach to the conclusion that they won’t remove it in later builds from the article itself.
Do they still make enterprise/ltsc/iot versions for 11? Because those are usually the ones that don’t treat you like a child, and I expect them to retain that
They do indeed, Enterprise still comes with a load of bloat thesedays.
There has always been join domain under sign in options.
Good to know, that’s what I use on my 10. Didn’t know if 11 has it since it never really appealed to me.
Good to know, but I will never sign into windows with an MS account at home. Fuck everything about this. It’s either old build or 11 or still use 10 for the games I like, or I use Linux. Use that primarily as it is anyways.
Indeed I am also the same.
Well, if I’ve got no way to bypass it (when setting up for customers), I’ll create an account specifically for this purpose.
And proceed to poison the hell out of any data it sends.
Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?
Couldn’t you just reinstall windows with an older ISO to bypass this? That’s what I already do at work anytime I need to setup a new machine, gets rid of the manufacturer supplied
programsbloatware. Plus Rufus has an option for triggering the bypass command automatically.Does it still let you sign in locally if you disable network interfaces in BIOS?
Don’t think so. The setup itself can’t complete without internet.
Man it must suck to set up a computer now on restricted networks.
Windows computers that is
I would have been spiteful enough to return my new laptop (despite needing it for a trip I had in a couple of days) if I hadn’t been able to bypass the account requirement by disabling the wifi.
What still pissed me off is that it would restart itself after downloading updates if it was left idle, and there was no straightforward option to turn that off. (I think I managed to break that “feature” but who knows how long that will work.) Turning my computer off is never acceptable unless I initiate it. It’s about as obviously wrong as walking into my house uninvited or borrowing my stuff without asking me.
That was one of the things that drove me away from Windows. Coming to my desk in the morning to see my computer on not sleeping because it woke up to apply updates or some other shit pissed me off.
Just one of the many ways that with Windows, my computer didn’t feel like I was in control of it anymore.
With Linux, I’m in complete control and it feels so good. Also knowing that I’m not giving out data just by using my computer is great. And FOSS is just cool.
And FOSS is just cool.
It’s such an underrated feature of desktop Linux. The fact that if I experience an issue with a piece of software, I could find the program’s source code and browse issues to see if anyone had a shared experience. And if not, I could publicly submit an issue which the developers and other users/contributors could help resolve. And if you’re brave/experienced enough, you can take a crack at fixing it yourself and potentially resolving the issue for other users!
On windows/macos which both fail to foster robust foss communities remotely comparable to Linux, the best option more often than not was sending an email to some support address that either never gets checked, or only replies with canned messages. After which you’ll never know whatnif anything happened to your report.
A couple of years ago it took three tries to install windows without a bunch of junk added. Linux is the way my dudes and dudettes.
Didn’t Microsoft do the same thing with Windows 10 and EU prevented that?
Yup and this change will neither apply to the EU nor Enterprise 11 Customers. Guaranteed.
I use that command partially because Microsoft accounts don’t allow passwords as long as the password I like to use for my PC
Genuine question:
What’s the point of a long password on Windows? I understand that you sometimes don’t want people accessing your stuff, but at it takes to bypass that and someone access your files is booting off of a USB stick. Or do you perhaps use full disk encryption?
Most people are more worried about remote attackers than someone physically putting hands on their PC. But, yes, you should pretty much without exception be using full disk encryption.
It’s very assholish of Microsoft to lock bitlocker behind the Pro license.
are you a horse battery staple wizard
Basically. It’s essentially a full-on sentence and last time I looked, Microsoft allowed about half the character length.
Well, at least they aren’t pretending to accept longer passwords but actually truncating it, like they used to in hotmail and live.
They were silently truncating the passwords to something like the first 16 characters, the rest was ignored.
Correct
my man
Which suggests to me that MS stores plaintext passwords. Because a hash function doesn’t care about the length of what it’s hashing, the output will always be the same length, so they could verify a 300 character password with the same storage space as a 3 character password.
Not how it works. You don’t attempt to guess the hashed password, you guess a password which then is hashed
What’s stored is hash(password). Then the password check is stored == hash(entered).
Hash(x) will be the same length, regardless of what x is. What that length is depends on which hash function it is. So the database can set the length of its storage for each user’s password to the length of the hash and the hash function will take any size password.
I still have an old copy of the installer with that command intact. Might be good to keep around.
