• @Asafum@feddit.nl
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    13115 hours ago

    2 months before election, every shit box MSM channel:

    “AOC is a Communist! She loves North Korea! She wants to let violence run rampant in NYC and give candy to pedophiles to help them catch children! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DONT VOTE FOR HER!

    • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      AOC has very much demonstrated over the past few years that she understands how to be a politician and not just a tankie firebrand.

      So she would at least be able to answer that with something like “No. I actively condemn the human rights abuses by North Korea and <insert whatever list of pseudo-communist fascist regimes get spewed>. What I do not condemn are government programs to assist those in need and…”

      Whether that would be enough? I doubt it. But it would give her a fighting chance with familes that actually understand how horrific these “communist” regimes actually were. Rather than refusing to condemn them because they had good branding like certain other American Left Wing politicians.

        • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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          913 hours ago

          Which is still a lot better than Certain Other American Leftists who can’t even say “I condemn the horrors by the <blank> regime” because said regime identified as communist.

      • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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        That implies they even give her the chance to talk as opposed to just having talking head asshats tell you these things about her. They wouldn’t dare interview her and accidentally expose their audience to anything positive about her.

        It’s the same thing they did to Bernie, even “far left MSNBC” ran “Bernie loves Castro” stories constantly and had one chucklefuck talk about getting put to the firing squad if Bernie won…

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        So she would at least be able to answer that with something like “No. I actively condemn the human rights abuses by North Korea and <insert whatever list of pseudo-communist fascist regimes get spewed>. What I do not condemn are government programs to assist those in need and…”

        You have been banned from Lemmy․ml

      • @LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
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        611 hours ago

        The GOP (and some Democrats) have been demonizing her since day 1. It would be a major uphill battle cause they know how to start the messaging early.

        • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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          510 hours ago

          As opposed to… A straight, white, old, rich, cis-gendered, moderate male? That was our last president, and he didn’t get reelected. They’ll attack and demonize and exaggerate no matter what. The “appeal to both sides” approach has failed spectacularly, every single time. The only options left are to fight for progress, or roll over, and ignore as millions of people are harmed. I know what I’m choosing…

          • People keep saying that the Republicans have a magical ability to sink a politician by “demonizing” them in order to convince themselves that Hillary Clinton wasn’t a shitty candidate.

        • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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          211 hours ago

          They know that any charming or well funded democrat needs to be shat on years in advance of any presidential ambitions in order to make whatever groaning pork mound ends up on their ticket stands a chance

  • venotic
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    Some of us thought Schumer had a spine. Turns out, he really doesn’t.

    • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      To be clear:

      I don’t think ANYONE thought schumer had a spine. But we at least expected him to do the absolute bare minimum rather than campaign for the republicans themselves.

        • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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          Could we maybe not attack our LGBTQ+ friends?

          There are much better ways to insult a traitorous piece of shit that doesn’t involve resorting to homophobic language and insults.

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            This isn’t homophobic my friend. Except if you deny cis men bodily pleasures just because you want to categorize them.

            Besides that, he uses it as a prosthetic to keep him upright.

            • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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              Ah, my mistake. I wasn’t aware you were… complimenting schumer for being comfortable with his own sexuality?

              Do better. Our friends need to know we are allies since they are already on the front lines whether they like it or not.

              • @flying_mechanic@lemmy.world
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                Implying the presence of a dildo as a structural member(ha) doesn’t negate or speak hatefully about the use of sex toys or people who use them, but it does imply he was being submissive to someone else(GOP). This has nothing to do with LGBTQ+ support. Sex toys don’t belong to just them.

            • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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              Schumer is male. The big schoolyard insult is that he has a dildo up his ass.

              There are two ways to interpret that. One is that he is very comfortable with his sexuality and enjoys pressure on his prostate. The other being that he wants to have sex with a man or is “submissive” (and calling THAT an insult is also pretty shitty) and so forth.

              The chud-lites are pretending that it totally wasn’t an insult and they were just giving a non sequitor about how schumer is comfortable in his sexuality and that anyone who thinks they were calling him gay (as an insult) is the real villain. I would say that whether people can even think that with a straight face says a lot about them as a person.

          • @hypna@lemmy.world
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            I for one agree that kind of sexualized criticism is inappropriate. I think a reasonable person would read it as trying to demean Schumer by associating him with other-than-straight behavior.

    • @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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      I saw him in Prospect Park (Brooklyn) once and he legitimately was walking around with atrocious posture. Funny, in retrospect.

    • @proto_jefe@lemm.ee
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      It was always Pelosi calling the shots (for better or worse). Schumer was always there as a fundraiser.

      • @NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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        Pelosi has a LOT of conflicting loyalties and interests but she is a leader. She is not the leader I want, but she is a leader.

        Schumer has actively undermined Democrat efforts. It is hard to argue why we should even fight for Senate seats (and by association, House) when he is actively going to give up what little strength we have so that he can go home earlier.

        The Democrats need to make him stand down as minority leader ASAP and I have repeatedly said as much when calling in at the various levels.

  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    5615 hours ago

    If you add every single undecided to Schumer…

    The survey by the liberal firm Data for Progress, first shared with POLITICO, found that 55 percent of Democratic likely voters said they supported or leaned toward supporting Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, while 36 percent backed or leaned toward backing Sen. Schumer. Nine percent were undecided.

    AOC would still have a double digit lead…

    • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      That is hilariously damning for Schumer. Granted, I don’t trust a poll these days further than I could throw an overweight pollster, but still: that is FAR outside the margin of error. Schumer fucking torpedoed his own legacy, and (save for the context of the government falling the fuck apart) it’s fucking hilarious. There’s going to be a whole chapter named after that dipshit in EU history textbooks (I don’t think the US will have history textbooks for a while. Or, they won’t be “US” history textbooks), and it’s going to be about the progression of how the DNC was captured by monied interests, and subsequently incrementalized their way into utter irrelevance.

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        815 hours ago

        It won’t be a whole chapter. He’ll probably get a sentence that might not even mention his name, as the former leader of the defunct minority party that did nothing to slow the tide of fascism

    • @ceenote@lemmy.world
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      Can’t get complacent, though. All seasoned politicians are experienced in rehabilitating their image before an election.

  • @dhork@lemmy.world
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    The election isn’t until 2028. I doubt Chuck even runs again, he’ll be 78. That Senate seat is likely AOC’s to claim, as long as she doesn’t run for President instead.

    (And I bet that Senate seat will be her reward for not offering a primary challenge to Gavin Newsom…)

    • @samus12345@lemm.ee
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      1310 hours ago

      Per the article:

      Schumer has filed paperwork to run for reelection.

      Remember Dianne Feinstein. These mummies want to stay in power long, long after they should step down.

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        Of course he filed paperwork, that just lets him raise money. I expect him not to run, and spread the money around to candidates he likes…

        Maybe he “stays in the race” for as long as it takes AOC to decide to not run for President …

    • rigatti
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      For real, I don’t get why everyone is so excited over this. The political landscape will look very different in 2028 anyway.

  • Nougat
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    It is unclear what the Schumer-Ocasio-Cortez poll could mean for the New York primary in three years, however, with surveys this early rarely being predictive. Ocasio-Cortez has also been noncommittal about a potential Senate run. Schumer has filed paperwork to run for reelection.

    This is a fluff piece, with zero real substance.

      • Rhaedas
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        It shouldn’t be surprising after what he did. Run a poll for two representatives in a state, one who is doing something and one that backstabbed efforts to help the public, I would hope the first is favored.

      • Nougat
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        Is it indicative that Democrats in New York (and elsewhere, surely) are primed for the people they elected to grow spines? Sure. We knew that, I think.

        Does it have anything at all to do with Schumer’s Senate seat three years from now? Not really.

        • partial_accumen
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          Sure. We knew that, I think.

          Schumer may not have known that, and now he does. And he knows we know it too. That’s why this is an interesting new piece.

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    915 hours ago

    Look out dinosaurs, the mammals are coming!