Summary
China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people “peasants” in a Fox News interview, where he said, “To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”
The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks “ignorant and disrespectful.”
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Critics mocked Vance’s own “hillbilly” background and pointed to China’s advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trump’s trade war.
Big talk from hillbilly white trash.
I read this in Kahn from King of the Hills voice.
"Hey, Minh! Mascra wearing Hillbilly is fondling his couch! You owe me a dollar! "
JD Vance is such a little bitch.
Hopefully china will sanction JD Vancer.
Rising tensions with China? I was told that’s what the Democrats were going to do if they won. 🤷♂️
Maga said that Biden was under CCP control.
Now looks who is under Kremlin control.
Projection.
Wait, I thought Trump is Putin’s puppet and Putin is Xi’s puppet?
They did.
Pardon my ignorance, but how so?
“China lashes out”
Did they also “slam” home the fact that this is quite literally a world leader directly insulting the people of their closest rival? The bad news writing mixing with clown world politics is why all this seems so unreal to people, we are talking about a collapse of global world order but this reads like a TMZ piece.
…I hate laughing at the downfall of my own country, but we definitely had it coming. I guess Chinese is the new lingua franca. Anyway, can someone help me understand why “Ma” in Mandarin means both weed and mom? How do I buy weed in Beijing?
Mandarin has 4 (technically 5) tones so “ma” could be any one of those 4 different pronunciations. Furthermore, there are many completely different words that have the same tone/pronunciation. You just learn through context (same way as you do with English homophones)
Mom in mandarin is 媽 (mā) whereas weed is 麻 (má). Colloquially you can also say 大麻 (dàmá) for weed.
Also, even before you go into the nitty gritty, there are homonyms in English too, so I don’t get why OP needs an explanation.
you also use ma at the end of the sentences to form a question, to make it more confusing
How legal is weed in China? I get the impression the regime is anti drugs
take this as you will, it is copy pasted from a site. most other sources i saw up to reading this said the same shit, so it is probably fairly accurate
The Punishment for Marijuana in China
Possession & Use: Individuals caught with marijuana or using marijuana will face administrative detention between 10 to 15 days, as well as fines of up to 2,000 yuan ($280 USD). Trafficking and Distribution: Selling or distributing marijuana is a crime. Punishment for those found guilty of handling over 50 grams includes a minimum three-year prison sentence, with life incarceration or death being possible penalties for larger weights (or in special cases). Marijuana Cultivation: Growing cannabis is another criminal offense, no matter how many plants. People arrested for growing marijuana could spend five years in jail and pay a hefty fine. For larger amounts, the punishment is even steeper.Thanks!
Possession is much lighter than I was expecting.
There is probably a lot of pressure to give up the supplier.
yeah, i have no idea, on the granular level like that i would image it is quite a complicated thing, as it is anywhere
Just spit balling here but probably execution level legal.
I think you get a fine up to 2000 Yuan? I could be wrong.
U can ask Mom for weed by saying ma ma
Make it a question with a third ma.
So “ma ma ma?” (妈麻吗?)
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Not to mention Chinese is quite the endeavor to learn, Esperanto would make way more sense.
You can’t. At least not legally.
Wonder how my friend who’s a Chinese immigrant who supports Trump and wanted to move to Singapore if Kamala won, feels about this.
You should ask them if you haven’t already. In a kind way of course.
At some point I will.
At some point, The Onion is going to have to close up shop. Because the absurdity of reality goes way beyond any satire they could dream up.
Satire has been dead for many years…
I remember that late night talk shows basically said that they don’t have to write comedy during Trump’s first term, because everything he was doing was comedy. This second term is far darker, but the lunacy of what’s happening on a daily basis makes all comedy and satire writers obsolete!
Even actual news reporting on serious things like “explaining Trump’s tariffs”, end up being almost unbelievable, like you have to question whether what you’re listening to actually happened or not. Take a few minutes to learn about how Trump’s team came up with the tariff numbers, and you’ll think that you’re watching a Pixar movie.
I knew a girl from China and this is a huge insult to them. Being seen or labeled as rural is very embarrassing in their culture. She was ashamed because she grew up on her uncle’s pig farm.
Farmers should be respected like other workers, they are feeding the world.
But then they vote republican…
You have a point US farmer voted Trumpican.
Republicans seem to have changed a lot over the years. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/09/reagan-trump-republicans/679746/
Many jobs are equally essential, I don’t get why people lose their asses over farmers specifically. It’s not like they feed the people out of charity, it’s their job to do so, and they get paid to do it.
I respect farmers as long as they aren’t ignorant and conservative.
I respect farmers as long as they’re not abusing migrant labour at illegal wages… So, I barely respect farmers.
exactly and they should be equally respected like other workers.
Well, in as much as they’re workers, yeah. When instead they’re landowners who illegally employ immigrants in order to pay them misery wages under the counter, fuck them. Farmers can be extremely reactionary and exploitative too, in a way that say, a supermarket cashier, simply can’t be.
you are right but if you compare landowner you should compare to other owner like supermarket owner, store owner, there are also store owner who hire illegals worker/casher paying them miserable cash wages.
Exactly my point: many farmers aren’t working class, they’re petit-bourgeois, which explains why there are so many reactionary tendencies among them. The farmers who are working class deserve praise, the ones who are landowners don’t.
Yup that is true.
I agree. I was just providing a cultural perspective as to why this would be such a big deal for them.
That’s just because all the development happened in cities. It’s easier to educate people when they live in a place with more funding.
In 2020 or so the income inequality in china was equal to that of USA. Meaning that rural places didn’t have sufficient funding.
But now the gini is down to 0,36. Meaning that there’s more widespread funding.
China seems to be willing. While the inequality in USA is by design to attract capital
I think the shame is on the part of all Americans as this is on them sadly even the good ones.
Meanwhile they all can be gulag’d at any time by their cruel dictator. They are all serfs in that aspect.
Man yeah, a country where you can be sent to an extra territorial jail with no due process and absolutely no recourse because the Man said so.
That sounds scary!Agreed. Hence why most people would find it reprehensible.
What’s the incarceration rate in China? You guys are so fucking racist by swallowing the Anti-Chinese propaganda I swear to god.
What’s the youth unemployment?
The answer is it doesn’t matter, its a dictatorship that curates the truth.
Have you not looked at western media during the GENOCIDE in Gaza? All of them collectively talking about “war in Israel and Palestine”, playing both sides, and curating the truth. For fuck’s sake, the average Republican in the USA lives in a completely different world of covid denialism, and thinks Elon performed an accidental Roman salute.
Does Bernie Sanders get arrested and put in a reeducation camp for speaking out against it, as he would in China?
Those are just two examples from the past month. Edward Snowden? Julian Assange? Do those names ring a bell?
Also, Bernie is openly not against the genocide in Gaza. He openly talks of “Israel’s right to defend itself” and consistently talks of the “war” (not the GENOCIDE) using bothsideism
We’ll touche, definitely weird to be talking about sending prisoners to El Salvador.
Though these terrorist laws were always going to be abused.
They are victims, not “peasants” or “serfs”.
Serfs were victims, it’s roughly equivalent to slavery to be a serf
Right but it’s a nicer word to use imo.
Why are we softening the image of slavery? A spade is a fucking spade
Why do you think the article is upset at Vance? He should have said “We borrow money from them to buy the things they manufacture.” Mentioning ethnicity or the word peasant is clearly racist. Even if he wanted to drive it home, he could have said “We borrow money from these victims of slavery…” but it wouldn’t have made any sense of course that way. It was racist.
Don’t take it personally, China. He feels the same way about the majority of Americans including his own family. He’s got a chip on his shoulder bc he grew up among the peasant class, made it to the Ivy Leagues and has desperately been trying to claw his way into a social level he’ll never be accepted to bc he wasn’t born into it.
From his POV you’re either a peasant, or you’re an elitist. Unless you’re part of the 1% of billionaires and generational wealth. Somehow that makes you an average Joe, and that’s why you benefit the most from Vance’s policies and “beliefs” (whatever he may need them to be in the moment).
Vance is not dumb, but he certainly acts like a useful idiot.
He can get there despite being dumb. Plenty of really dumb people end up on top. Not because of their intelligence but because of their complete lack of regard for others.
How is he not dumb? I’ve seen his texts in private chats. That’s not meant for the public. And god damn does he seem dumb
Coming from the hick from Appalachia.
The stereotype at that. A dumb hick from Appalachia. Which isn’t really fare to the people from there anymore. I’ve met serveral people from there who were fair minded and of reasonable intelligence. Just not that waste of breath.
I mean isn’t Trump’s penguin tariff plan to make American peasants instead?
These people are so stupid, I cannot. I wish I was as blitzed as they are so I didn’t have to pay attention either.
I never thought I would say, “You Go China!!” (Is that bad?)
No. Considering present-day America and China, one of those nations is far more reliable and far more stable.
ML, grad and hexbear are patiently waiting for your apologies. Sad that the line the US had to cross wasn’t imperialism and genocide, but losing decorum and imposing tariffs on treats…
I’m an anarchist. I have always been at odds with the American state. I have been arguing against genocide apologists since the Palestinian genocide began. China is not a perfect state. They are authoritarian. They are at odds with me ideologically, and I have many criticisms of their past and present state. It’s possible to both acknowledge the extent of anti-china propaganda output by the American state, and also that China is a country that has its own history past and present of human rights abuses and workers rights abuses.
This is basically 1:1 with my thoughts, would it be cool if I paraphrased/copy paste this for future use?
Sure, by all means.
Thank you, I wanted to at least ask first.
Sure, you just mentioned “present-day”, and I thought maybe you referred that things have changed somehow. The US has always been imperialist and genocidal in nature, that’s why I got triggered by the “present-day” part of your initial comment and to what I was responding.
I had a longer comment typed up initially but opted for something shorter since it was likely falling on deaf ears anyway. Yes, America was founded by genocidal colonialists. Genocide and Western imperialism are foundational American institutions.
Cool, good to see that we’re on the same page, sorry for the aggressive tone in my first comment.
Just Dumb is a fucking numbnut.
They are so laughably bad at this stong man act. They talk politics like either a particularly stupid playground bully or a guffawing British colonial moron from the time of the empire.
Also, I suppose it would help if your opponents found you even the least bit intimidating
They’re WWE grads
Yet they can’t cut a promo!
Linda MacMahon is literally the Secretary of Education.
Only Democrats seem to find their act intimidating.
Here it is again, a desperate attempt to blame Democrats.
“Please stop capitulating to Trump and signing off of his bills, they’re fascists and you’re enabling them.”
“Whats with the blame for Democrats? You must hate them for no reason.”
The budget bill? Things were going to be worse if there was a shutdown that hands more power to the executive.
If they wanted a shutdown, Republicans would have voted no and shut it down.
Instead they voted yes along with 11 Democrats.
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What the fuck have you done other than echo the right wing spin?
The right wing spin of “Please stop doing what Trump wants you to do”?
Or the right wing spin of “Stand up for the people who voted you in to stop Trump”?
Substantially more than most of the people on this site have been doing.
Like they were elected to do. I sure hope they’re doing more than the people trying to balance rent and food as they worry about if their senator is going to vote yes on Trump’s wants.
Thank fuck i would say. It literally their fucking job isn’t it? I have to card in every morning at 9am till 5. Their equivalent of card in is to oppose this shit, and to be perfectly honest, if I put as much effort as they did so far, my manager would have fired my ass for being a slacker
Yeah. Fucking Schumer is really leading the opposition. /s
And what specifically have you done?
I haven’t voted to confirm Trump’s nominees
Not voted Yes on anything Republicans want, for starters.
No cabinet picks. No poison pills. No sneaking in expansions of power in yearly budgets. No tax cuts for the rich.
It costs as much energy to vote no as it does yes. But it doesn’t look good for the lobbyists’ bank accounts when they pay for Trump’s demands, so why even bother fighting for what’s right?
Can you be any more specific?
They’re not blameless. They’re not entirely to blame, but they could’ve regulated social media to dampen disinformation when they had the chance.
holy shit these fucking libs
“They should have cracked down on how we’re allowed to communicate with each other”
and not
“They shouldn’t have committed a genocide” or “They shouldn’t have taken tens of millions of people off medicaid and doubled child poverty”
And now that would be the reason they didn’t get elected.
Example?
You could look into it yourself, but here’s a general overview on the US response to disinformation:
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/disinformation-governance-board/
The Democrats could’ve been pushing harder to address such a serious problem, but they didn’t. And here we are.
Like I said, they’re not entirely to blame, but they’re not blameless.
I was aware of the dangers and am now aware of the cited committee to establish regulations that somehow counter foreign and domestic disinformation without infringing on the First Amendment; I was moreso asking for your personal idea of a regulation that you would put in place if dictator for a day.
The answer is never censorship. Look at who would be in charge of your ‘regulated’ social media now… It would be all of it instead of just the now hyper-regulated X.
I didn’t say censorship. They could’ve regulated social media as actual Media outlets, which puts them on the hook for libel lawsuits if blatantly fake disinformation is advertised on their platforms. In other words, they have to follow the same rules as traditional media outlets.
Social media isn’t a news source. Perhaps forcing them to remove all the ‘algorithms’ might be the answer. Keep the echo chamber effect to a minimum. Excluding people from being able to speak based on the current administration’s definition of blatantly fake disinformation is a bad idea. Once again, look who is now in charge of what is ‘blatantly fake’… They’d be suing the crap out of Lemmy under that law… Europe is all in on censorship, so we can only hope the Nazis don’t take over there again or we’ll be boxed in from every direction.
