The lead plaintiff in the case, Nyree Hinton, bought a used Model Y with less than 37,000 miles (59,546 km) on the odometer. Within six months, it had pushed past the 50,000-mile (80,467 km) mark, at which point the car’s bumper-to-bumper warranty expired. (Like virtually all EVs, Tesla powertrains have a separate warranty that lasts much longer.)
For this six-month period, Hinton says his Model Y odometer gained 13,228 miles (21,288 km). By comparison, averages of his three previous vehicles showed that with the same commute, he was only driving 6,086 miles (9,794 km) per 6 months.
Edit: I just want to point out that I just learned that changing your tires to ones of a different diameter can also affect how your spedometer clocks. So yeah, this issue is full of nuance and plausible things as to why this could not be true.
You can’t change the tire size on a Model Y very much because of the weird suspension design.
Plus, to double the mileage registered by using different size tires, you’d have to put a roughly 10" tire on a Model Y.
Well, true, but tyres wouldn’t make it a double distance, it’s not that simple. The case isn’t clear, if course, but the claim says that the odometer tried to reduce the range after it got out of the warranty period.
Not saying anything about the merit of the case, just the the claim itself sounds interesting and that if true, you can’t wave it away with “you changed tyres”.
Just literal fraud
odometer += sensor * this_is_just_for_debugging_i_promise(odometer);Add this to the pile of the rest of the illegal things billionaire Musk does simply because he can
Better or worse than rape-via-twitter? Better, I guess.
Should be super easy to prove too… Take an assortment of Teslas to a 1 mile stretch of road, drive it up and down 20 times, measure the mileage before and after.
Right, but Tesla has had time to push new code to their cars. So we could get a negative result now and still have past shadiness.
If the courts cared for the rights of people they would subpoena code routinely
We can’t be ruled by black boxes that serve people who hate us. It has to end
There’s got to be a git repository out there that has a smoking gun in its history…
In the past, Tesla lawyers even initiated lawsuits against customers who dared to criticize the quality of their cars or services. Such cases are documented and therefore not fake news. Last week, moreover, DOGE dismantled the department responsible for safety control and approval of new cars entering the market. Tesla experienced too many problems with this department in the past and now, through DOGE, took the opportunity to simply dismantle it. Moral of the story… buy a Tesla, a “safe” decision.
ha, ha, people getting screwed over by musk makes me laugh.
Changing your tire sizing only changes the speedo and odo a few percent. You can usually just ignore it unless you’re making drastic changes.
Yeah aeems a pretty useless edit for an obvious fact. Especially as in this case you would need tires half the circumstance of the original to make sense… Gotta be some tiny tires…
Edit, had it the wrong way around
Hey Siri how do I convert from inches to circumstance
Well I’m curious to find out what discovery will show.
That’s 70 miles a day, for anyone who doesn’t want to do the math. I don’t know where Hinton lives, but that’s almost two laps around all of the highways surrounding the city I live in. That’s 2 hours of driving on surface roads, not including stop lights and stop signs.
I wonder how much money Tesla has saved by breaking the law this way?
Or about 11 swedish miles per day.
What Swedish mile?
The unity mile, of course. It’s 10,688.54 m.
What’s that in Ikea meatballs?
112 km a day, not a bad commute by Toronto standards - it’s one way for the Barrie to Toronto drivers
Sure, but it’s an additional 70 miles. Not something that would go unnoticed.
Good thing we have the CFPB to register and punish companies for shady practices like th…oh, nevermind.
Wrong gutted regulator
Or intentionally?
A odometer is a smell sensor, no?
They don’t install those in new cars, you need one made in the ol’factory.
How silly, it’s obvious that would be an odormeter. An odometer is about something else entirely.
Obviously!
That’s a smellometer!
Let’s use the Smelloscope!
No
But odor!
Hodor
Tesla? Muskrat? Engaged in fraud‽‽
Well I am just shocked, SHOCKED…well, not that shocked
Very appropriate use of the interrobang.
It cannot possibly be legal to have the odometer show anything except actual miles traveled.
Yeah, I just closed the agency investigating my company so there is no enforcement mechanism. Legal alludes to a system I now own and control because it’s better for me that way. Going to pass a few joke statues or pardon myself if there are any teeth left. Thanks fucking peasant.
Yeah I thought odometer fraud was like a serious thing, I wonder if it applies here.
Yes of course that kind of fraud is serious. If it can be shown that Tesla is screwing with odometers in this case, they will immediately face a massive class action lawsuit from current and former owners, and their stock will tank even more.
It affects routine maintenance, warranties, resale value, business taxes (based on the current value), and all sorts of other things. I think there is potential for other interesting legal issues, too. If Tesla is lying to the customers, then the customers are reporting false data to their insurance companies and state regulatory agencies. So there could be legal issues connecting to those groups as well.
