But the advantage is that Lemmy allows Tor. 😅

  • @bigredcar@lemmy.world
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    Even on big websites like Wikipedia there are only a few hundred major editors that write most of the content and they all know each other. On Youtube you tend to get to know everyone in your filter bubble as well.

  • Lovable Sidekick
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    Considering how new anonymity is for the human race, it amazes me how people treat it like a crucial element of life. Civilization mostly lacked it for thousands of years because almost everybody lived in villages or small towns - about half the people in the world still do.

    • Possibly linux
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      These days it is either full anonymity or surveillance state

      Tech does that

    • @chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      You may not have been anonymous to the people in your immediate community, but you were largely anonymous to the people outside of it, which is something that has been systematically dismantled in various ways through history. Even things as basic as last names are there to make you visible to outsiders.

      From Seeing Like a State, p59:

      The invention of permanent, inherited patronyms was, after the administrative simplification of nature (for example, the forest) and space (for example, land tenure), the last step in establishing the necessary preconditions of modern statecraft. In almost every case it was a state project, designed to allow officials to identify, unambiguously, the majority of its citizens. When successful, it went far to create a legible people. 38 Tax and tithe rolls, property rolls, conscription lists, censuses, and property deeds recognized in law were inconceivable without some means of fixing an individual’s identity and linking him or her to a kin group. Campaigns to assign permanent patronyms have typically taken place, as one might expect, in the context of a state’s exertions to put its fiscal system on a sounder and more lucrative footing.

      IMO the felt anonymity of Reddit, that comes from the fact that hardly anyone cares to remember your username and you don’t directly experience scrutiny, isn’t that useful. What really matters is the potential for someone to look over everything you’ve written (and if they have administrator access, connect that to IP, email, browser fingerprint etc.), and use that information for their own purposes, regardless of their having any connection to or legitimate personal interest in you. In that respect, Lemmy isn’t much better (it kind of can’t be when the premise is publicly posting writing to the internet), but it isn’t worse either.

  • oppy1984
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    02 months ago

    Look at it this way, in a small town people are more likely to be kind and offer higher quality information when asked. The same things can be said about lemmy.

    • @MusicSoulEdu@lemmy.ca
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      Definitely found that to be the case so far! Posted the same question to reddit and it was crickets there.

      • oppy1984
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        02 months ago

        Yep. Also I’m old too, I remember when AIM was going to kill IRC.

    • @LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world
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      In game theory, a repeated prisoner’s dilemma can become a stag hunt if the probability of future interaction is high enough. Which is essentially what you’re saying.

      • oppy1984
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        I’m familiar with the prisoners dilemma but not the stag hunt aspect, I’ll have to take your word for it until I have time to read up on that.

        • @LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world
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          Prisoner’s dilemmas are interesting because cooperation is socially optimal but not sustained by a Nash equilibrium. Cooperation is fragile. It’s a little “doom and gloom.” Are social species destined to be individualistic selfish assholes?

          Under certain conditions, a repeated prisoner’s dilemma becomes a stag hunt. Stag hunts are interesting because cooperation is, in fact, sustained by a Nash equilibrium. But it’s not for free: there’s also a suboptimal Nash equilibrium that could be hard to get out of.

          But the moral is that there’s incentive to not be an asshole if there’s a high probability of future encounters.

          • oppy1984
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            Thanks for the explanation, I finally had a little time to read up on the stag hunt aspect and what I read basically said what you said just in a more long winded way, lol.

  • I know I am normally recognizable, but currently if someone doesn’t have display names or avatars visible they probably won’t know who I am on this account since it’s my old username, from Reddit.

  • @answersplease77@lemmy.world
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    your privacy is worse on lemmy. anyone can access all your comment and post upvotes and downvotes. your pms are open for server admins to read. both examples need to be fixed imo

      • KubeRoot
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        Doesn’t change the voting situation. Since your votes need to be seen by other instances, Lemmy needs a mechanism for federating votes. Since instances are untrusted, there needs to be some way of preventing manipulation. Thus, AFAIK, Lemmy simply shares your votes across instances, letting each one tally them up. As a side effect, any server admin of an instance you can interact with can also get a list of all your votes.

    • @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Btw, your PMs being available to admins is the same on like every socmed. If you have to use lemmy as your secure method of communication (you shouldn’t), at least use PGP, but lemmy isn’t meant for that, use XMPP or Matrix or even Signal I guess.

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      Your privacy is the same on either. But now, anyone can gain that information, not just Reddit’s investors and partners.

      It’s what you write on these platforms that affects your privacy.

  • daed
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    Jokes on you. Post less, remember less.

    • @throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Flying Squid (what happened to that user btw)
      The Picard Maneuver
      Kolanki @ yiffit
      cm0002
      PugJesus
      ClinicallyDepressesPoochie

      And a lot more I can’t name, but I instantly recognize.

      And there are also some infamous users that I will instantly recognize as trolls, but I’m not gonna turn this thread into negativity.

      • Lemminary
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        Flying Squid

        He left Lemmy for good when he got into an argument with someone on Discord or something like that about the 'verse. Tbf, he was as much of an ass as he was cool. He’d just go off on people without really understanding what they meant even if his heart was in the right place.

        • Possibly linux
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          I asked why he was moving to the UK and he took it as me attacking his daughter

          I suspect he might have some strong emotional stuff in his life

        • Possibly linux
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          Some of the more active users have very strong political views. I don’t mind them as users but I left the communities they moderate.

          Funny enough I only had to block around 10 or 12 hexbear/lemmyml accounts to stop the tankie posts.